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But then i will have to work harder. Then again, I am not a scab (I do not cross picket lines)I might have to go on strike!!
But then i will have to work harder. Then again, I am not a scab (I do not cross picket lines)I might have to go on strike!!
That's Subhotosh's job.Actually that is quite funny. Can you imagine if we all went out on strike for better working condition (like having someone make sure we do not have to read posts with no work shown)?
When \(n=1\) the number \(10^2+3\cdot 10^1+5=135=9\cdot 15\). True for \(n=1\).Here is what I'm being asked to prove for every positive integer n:
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First I tested with n=1:
Then I tried this and that and that and this and the best I could come up with is represented by the following:
I can't seem to get beyond this....has anyone got any ideas? I have tried things like writing 5 as (18-13) etc., but had no luck.
I will copy out what you suggest here and work with it tomorrow. I will post results then. Thanks for tip.There are two ways you might think of this, which work together nicely. One is that you want to use the assumption that \(10^{n+1}+3\cdot 10^n+5\) is a multiple of 9, so you'd like to have that expression present in your new expression. The other is that you want 9's wherever you can.
But you don't always know ahead of time what will work, so you have to just try things. Have you tried following the suggestion to see what will happen?? \(10^{n+2}+3\cdot 10^{n+1}+5 = 10(10^{n+1}+3\cdot 10^n)+5= (9+1)(10^{n+1}+3\cdot 10^n)+5\). Now distribute this: \(9(10^{n+1}+3\cdot 10^n)+1(10^{n+1}+3\cdot 10^n)+5\). What can you do next?
I'm going to have to work through this tomorrow when I get into math mode. I will get back with results. ThanksWhen \(n=1\) the number \(10^2+3\cdot 10^1+5=135=9\cdot 15\). True for \(n=1\).
Now suppose that \(\exists J\in \mathbb{Z}^+\) such that \(10^{K+1}+3\cdot 10^K+5=9\cdot J\)
Now consider:
\(\begin{gathered}
\quad {10^{(K + 1) + 1}} + 3 \cdot {10^{K + 1}} + 5 \hfill \\
= \left\{ {({{10}^{K + 1}} + 3 \cdot {{10}^K} + 5)10} \right\} - 45 \hfill \\
= 10\left( {9J} \right) - 45 \hfill \\
= 9(10J-5 )\hfill \\
\end{gathered} \)
DONE.
Thanks for the explanation. I will need to go through this in the morning when my brain revives. The symbol that looks like a hollow Z is new to me.Great comments. In addition
First, I like to keep separate the general number n and the arbitrary number k
and start by writing down the general proposition to be proved
[MATH]\text {P}(n) \text { is } n \in Z_{>0} \implies 9 \ | \ 10^{(n+1)} + 3 \cdot 10^n + 5.[/MATH]
As a practical matter, I may well play around with the proposition for some small numbers just to see if that experimentation teaches me something before I throw myself into a proof. In any case, it will give me the base case for induction.
[MATH]10^{(1+1)} + 3 * 10^1 +5 = 100 + 30 + 5 = 135 = 9 * 15 \implies P(1) \text { is true.}[/MATH]
Second, I hate the traditional vocabulary used for mathematical induction. The second step is usually described as the induction "hypothesis." That interfered with my intuition. There is nothing hypothetical about the following statement because we JUST PROVED IT.
[MATH]\text {There exists at least one positive integer for which P is true.}[/MATH]
[MATH]\text {Let } k \text { be an arbitrary one of those numbers.}[/MATH]
Third, I agree wholeheartedly with writing down what the consequences are of the preceding statement. It means you do not need to burden your memory with those consequences, and it forces you to articulate them consciously.
[MATH]k \in \mathbb Z_{>0} \implies k + 1 \in \mathbb Z_{>0}[/MATH].
[MATH]\text {P}(k) \text { is true} \implies \exists \text { an integer } j \ge 1 \text { such that }\\ 9j = 10^{(k+1)} + 3 \cdot 10^k + 5.[/MATH]Fourth, we want to try to express the expression of interest with respect to k + 1 in terms of WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT k.
[MATH]10^{\{(k+1)+1\}} + 3 \cdot 10^{(k+1)} + 5 =10(10^{(k+1)} + 3^10^k) + 5.[/MATH]
The expression in parentheses on the RHS looks a great deal like what we know about k. How do we get a 5 in there. We remember that
a - a = 0.
[MATH]10(10^{(k+1)} + 310^k) + 5 = 10(10^{(k+1)} + 3^10^k) + 50 - 50 + 5 = \\ 10(10^{(k+1)} + 3^10^k + 5) - 45 = 10 * 9j - 45 = 9(10j - 5).[/MATH][MATH]\therefore 9 \ | \ 10^{\{(k+1)+1\}} + 3 \cdot 10^{(k+1)} + 5 \implies P(k+1) \text { is true.}[/MATH]
[MATH]\therefore P(n) \text { is true for all positive integers. Q.E.D.}[/MATH]
There probably are other ways to do a proof by induction, but that way of proceeding has usually worked for me.
Thanks for your post. I will have to go through it in the morning when the math mood comes over me--which it unfailingly does every day for about 2 hours. Before it comes and after it goes I ain't no good for nothing in the way of 'rithmetic.I thought I would also add an alternative. As an ex-secondary teacher, I use less of the formal mathematical notation.
To prove: \(\displaystyle P(n): 10^{n+1} + 3 * 10^n +5 \) is divisible by \(\displaystyle 9\) for all positive integers \(\displaystyle n\).
PROOF BY INDUCTION:
Step 1
Prove true for \(\displaystyle n=1\)
\(\displaystyle P(1): 10^{(1+1)} + 3 * 10^1 + 5 =100 + 30 + 5 =135 = 9 * 15\) which is clearly a multiple of \(\displaystyle 9\)
Therefore \(\displaystyle P(1) \) is true.
Step 2
Assume true for \(\displaystyle n=k\)
ie \(\displaystyle P(k): 10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k + 5\) is divisible by \(\displaystyle 9\)
ie \(\displaystyle 10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k + 5 = 9m\) for some integer \(\displaystyle m\)
Step 3
Prove \(\displaystyle P(k+1): 10^{(k+1)+1} + 3 * 10^{k+1} +5\) is divisible by \(\displaystyle 9\)
Proof:
\(\displaystyle 10^{(k+1)+1} + 3 * 10^{k+1} + 5\)
\(\displaystyle =10^{k+2} + 3 * 10^{k+1} + 5\)
\(\displaystyle = 10 * 10^{k+1} + 3 * 10 * 10^k +5\)
\(\displaystyle =10(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k) +5\)
\(\displaystyle =(9+1)(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k) +5\)
\(\displaystyle =9(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k) +1(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k) +5\)
\(\displaystyle =9(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k) + (10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k +5)\)
\(\displaystyle =9(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k) + 9m\) using assumption
\(\displaystyle =9(10^{k+1} + 3 * 10^k +m)\)
which is clearly divisible by \(\displaystyle 9\).
Step 4
Since\(\displaystyle P(1)\) is true AND \(\displaystyle P(k)\) true \(\displaystyle => P(k+1)\) true, then \(\displaystyle P(n)\) is true for all positive integers \(\displaystyle n\). QED
(I realise the approach using the +50-50 is much shorter and more efficient, but find younger students sometimes find it difficult to decide how to apply that technique.)
The “hollow” Z means “integer” and derives from the German verb “zahlen,” meaning to “count.”Thanks for the explanation. I will need to go through this in the morning when my brain revives. The symbol that looks like a hollow Z is new to me.
The -45 in the third line from the bottom...what steps were taken to get that? I think JeffM had something like this in his proof too that I wasn't quite sure of...
Am I wrong in assuming that this subject of mathematical induction is an iceberg whose dimensions are barely hinted at in a precalculus text?
Thanks. I might have been exposed to these symbols a bit someplace but the sands of time.....The “hollow” Z means “integer” and derives from the German verb “zahlen,” meaning to “count.”
The other symbol that may be new to you is |, which means “divides evenly“ So a | b means “a divides b evenly.“ This is meaningful only if a and b are integers. By definition
[MATH]a \ | \ b \iff a \text { and } b \text { are integers, and there exists an integer } c \text { such that } ac = b. [/MATH]
By the way, I should have mentioned that the substance of my proof is the same as pka’s. I just surrounded it with some comments on how I have found it easiest to understand finding proofs by induction.
Here are two neat techniques that are seldom taught to beginning students, but come up from time to time.I see it! Very canny. Thanks
Yes, I have seen examples of this in the solutions manual I use with the text I have...but the mtext3 itself either doesn't mention this or certainly doesn't emphasize it to the point that a fairly thorough student would remember it. It certainly does come its own with mathematical induction proofs.Here are two neat techniques that are seldom taught to beginning students, but come up from time to time.
We have an expression that is not in useful form. Say the expression is a. We need to change the expression to a useful form without changing the value.
[MATH]a \equiv a \pm 0 \equiv a + (b - b) \equiv (a + b) - b \equiv (a - b) + b.[/MATH]
[MATH]a \equiv a \cdot 1 \equiv a \cdot \dfrac{b}{b} \equiv \dfrac{ab}{b} \equiv \dfrac{a}{b} \cdot b.[/MATH]
Obviously, b must not be 0 in the previous case.
We usually take advantage of these identities going right to left and call it "simplification." But we can go from left to right if we want. I guess we should call the general process "complexification." Rationalizing denominators is about the only place it occurs in basic algebra, but both techniques can arise anywhere and are frequently useful in proofs by induction, where we are trying to state an expression in terms of another.