(x - 1)(x + 1) = x^2 - 1

Zulgok

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Hello again, its a bit off-topic but I dont want to create a new thread just for this one.
(x-1)(x+1)=x2-1?
(x-1)(x-1)=also x2-1?
(x+1)(x+1)=x2+1?
(x-2)(x-3)=x2-3x-2x+6?
(x-2)(x+3)=x2-3x+2x+6?

Are those right ?
The reason im asking those is because im pretty sure I made somewhere a mistake with these.
(x+3)/(x-1)-(x-1)/(x+3)-((x+1)(x+1))/((x+3)(x-1)) | its a f(x)/g(x)=0
(x2+9-x2+1-x2-1)/(x-1)(x+3)=(-x2-9)/(x-1)(x+3) | I got answer x=3 and x=-3, but im supposed to get x=-1 and x=7. What did I do wrong ? Thank you !
 
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(x-1)(x+1)=x2-1?
What were the instructions? What are you supposed to be doing with this equation? If you're needing to "solve", what were your steps? After you multiplied out the left-hand side and subtracted everything over to one side of the "equals" sign, what did you do next?

(x-1)(x-1)=also x2-1?
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the "also" means in the middle of this equation. Kindly please reply with clarification.

(x+1)(x+1)=x2+1?
Are you supposed to solve this?

(x-2)(x-3)=x2-3x-2x+6?
If you multiply out the left-hand side, you will see that this equation is an identity; that is, both sides are the same thing (though the right-hand side needs to be simplified).

(x-2)(x+3)=x2-3x+2x+6?
Are you supposed to solve this?

Are those right ?
Lacking instructions, there is no way to know what might be "right". ;)
 
What were the instructions? What are you supposed to be doing with this equation? If you're needing to "solve", what were your steps? After you multiplied out the left-hand side and subtracted everything over to one side of the "equals" sign, what did you do next?


I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the "also" means in the middle of this equation. Kindly please reply with clarification.


Are you supposed to solve this?


If you multiply out the left-hand side, you will see that this equation is an identity; that is, both sides are the same thing (though the right-hand side needs to be simplified).


Are you supposed to solve this?


Lacking instructions, there is no way to know what might be "right". ;)

I have just updated my post a bit where I had to use those. About "also", that if both (x-1)(x-1) and (x+1)(x-1) are x2-1.
 
I have just updated my post a bit where I had to use those. About "also", that if both (x-1)(x-1) and (x+1)(x-1) are x2-1.
Absolutely NOT!

\(\displaystyle \large(x-1)(x-1)=(x-1)^2=x^2-2x+1\)
 
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Absolutely NOT!

\(\displaystyle \large(x-1)(x-1)=(x-1)^2=x^2+2x+1\)

Oh, so (x-1)(x+1) is equal to x2-1 then ? Also, isnt (x-1)2=x2-2x+1 ?

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Found my mistakes :) Now I have just one concern left, (x-1)(x+1)=x2-1, but when is it equal to x2​+1?
 
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I have just updated my post a bit where I had to use those. About "also", that if both (x-1)(x-1) and (x+1)(x-1) are x2-1.
In the future, kindly please reply to questions, rather than editing previous stages of the conversation (which makes the conversation very hard to follow, and leaves the helpers trying to figure out where you're at). Thank you.

I will guess that, by "if both ... are", you mean to say that the left-hand sides were expressions you were given, that the instructions were something like "expand and simplify", and you are asking if your answers, being the right-hand sides, are correct simplifications. If so, then no, only the one was completely correct. ;)
 
In the future, kindly please reply to questions, rather than editing previous stages of the conversation (which makes the conversation very hard to follow, and leaves the helpers trying to figure out where you're at). Thank you.

I will guess that, by "if both ... are", you mean to say that the left-hand sides were expressions you were given, that the instructions were something like "expand and simplify", and you are asking if your answers, being the right-hand sides, are correct simplifications. If so, then no, only the one was completely correct. ;)
Sorry for that :oops: Some of these got already clear now, only few left.
(x-2)(x+3)=x2-3x+2x+6? Im not sure if signs are right.
(x-1)(x+1)=x2-1, but how do I get x2+1 if (x+1)(x+1) is (x+1)2​?
 
Sorry for that :oops: Some of these got already clear now, only few left.
(x-2)(x+3)=x2-3x+2x+6? Im not sure if signs are right.
(x-1)(x+1)=x2-1, but how do I get x2+1 if (x+1)(x+1) is (x+1)2​?

The first one is simply a case of multiplying it out. Some instructors/books teach it with the acronym FOIL (First Outer Inner Last). That works, but I personally don't like it because it only works for two terms. You'd need a whole new acronym to multiply (a+b+c)(d+e+f). Instead, think of it as an iterative process to get each term of the answer:

Begin with the first term of the first expression. Multiply it by the first term of the second expression.
Take the first term of the first expression and multiply it by the second term of the second expression. Repeat until there are no more terms in the second expression.
Now take the second term of the first expression and multiply it by the first term of the second expression. Again, iterate through the terms in the second expression until you run out.

For example (2+3+4)(5+6+7) = (2*5) + (2*6) + (2*7) + (3*5) + (3*6) + (3*7) + (4*5) + (4*6) + (4*7) = 162. Compare that with (2+3+4)(5+6+7) = (9)(18) = 162. It checks. Now you try.

As for the second part, you can't ever get x2+1 by multiplying only real numbers. You can see why this is the case by using the quadratic formula, if you know it:

x2 + 1 = x2 + 0x + 1.

\(\displaystyle x=\frac{-0\pm \sqrt{0^2-4\left(1\right)\left(1\right)}}{2}=\frac{0\pm \sqrt{0-4}}{2}=\frac{0\pm \sqrt{-4}}{2}\)

You can't take the square root of negative 4 with only real numbers, so that means you can't factor x2+1 using only real numbers.

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Now, I'm assuming you're still struggling with the two exercises at the bottom of your original post:

The reason im asking those is because im pretty sure I made somewhere a mistake with these.
(x+3)/(x-1)-(x-1)/(x+3)-((x+1)(x+1))/((x+3)(x-1)) | its a f(x)/g(x)=0
(x2+9-x2+1-x2-1)/(x-1)(x+3)=(-x2-9)/(x-1)(x+3) | I got answer x=3 and x=-3, but im supposed to get x=-1 and x=7. What did I do wrong ? Thank you !

In the first exercise, I don't understand what you mean by "its a f(x)/g(x) = 0" Were the instructions something like "Simplify the expression given?" If yes, you have three fractions being subtracted, so what did you get when you found a common denominator?

In the second exercise, were you given both sides of the equation and told to solve for x? Or is the expression after the equals sign part of your work? Additionally, are both of the multiplied terms meant to be in the denominator? In other words, does either of these represent the given problem?

\(\displaystyle \frac{x^2+9-x^2+1-x^2-1}{\left(x-1\right)\left(x+3\right)}\) or \(\displaystyle \frac{x^2+9-x^2+1-x^2-1}{\left(x-1\right)}\left(x+3\right)\)
 
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