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S soroban Elite Member Joined Jan 28, 2005 Messages 5,586 Feb 26, 2010 #2 Hello, CalcGuy! I see nothing wrong with your answer. We have: 12⋅sin[sec−1(−9)]⋅cos[sec−1(−9)]\displaystyle \text{We have: }\:\frac{1}{2}\cdot\sin\left[\sec^{-1}(-9)\right]\cdot\cos\left[\sec^{-1}(-9)\right]We have: 21⋅sin[sec−1(−9)]⋅cos[sec−1(−9)] Let: θ = sec−1(−9)⇒secθ = 9−1 = hypadj\displaystyle \text{Let: }\:\theta \,=\,\sec^{-1}(-9) \quad\Rightarrow\quad \sec\theta \:=\:\frac{9}{-1} \:=\:\frac{hyp}{adj}Let: θ=sec−1(−9)⇒secθ=−19=adjhyp So, θ is in a right triangle with: adj=−1, hyp=9\displaystyle \text{So, }\theta\text{ is in a right triangle with: }\:adj = -1,\;hyp = 9So, θ is in a right triangle with: adj=−1,hyp=9 \(\displaystyle \text{Assuming }\theta\text{ is in Quadrant 3, we have: }\pp \,=\,-\sqrt{80}\,=\,-4\sqrt{5}\) Hence: sinθ = −459, cosθ = −19\displaystyle \text{Hence: }\:\sin\theta \:=\:-\frac{4\sqrt{5}}{9},\;\;\cos\theta \:=\:-\frac{1}{9}Hence: sinθ=−945,cosθ=−91 Therefore: 12sinθcosθ = 12(−459)(−19) = 2581\displaystyle \text{Therefore: }\:\frac{1}{2}\sin\theta\cos\theta \;=\;\frac{1}{2}\left(-\frac{4\sqrt{5}}{9}\right)\left(-\frac{1}{9}\right) \;=\;\frac{2\sqrt{5}}{81}Therefore: 21sinθcosθ=21(−945)(−91)=8125
Hello, CalcGuy! I see nothing wrong with your answer. We have: 12⋅sin[sec−1(−9)]⋅cos[sec−1(−9)]\displaystyle \text{We have: }\:\frac{1}{2}\cdot\sin\left[\sec^{-1}(-9)\right]\cdot\cos\left[\sec^{-1}(-9)\right]We have: 21⋅sin[sec−1(−9)]⋅cos[sec−1(−9)] Let: θ = sec−1(−9)⇒secθ = 9−1 = hypadj\displaystyle \text{Let: }\:\theta \,=\,\sec^{-1}(-9) \quad\Rightarrow\quad \sec\theta \:=\:\frac{9}{-1} \:=\:\frac{hyp}{adj}Let: θ=sec−1(−9)⇒secθ=−19=adjhyp So, θ is in a right triangle with: adj=−1, hyp=9\displaystyle \text{So, }\theta\text{ is in a right triangle with: }\:adj = -1,\;hyp = 9So, θ is in a right triangle with: adj=−1,hyp=9 \(\displaystyle \text{Assuming }\theta\text{ is in Quadrant 3, we have: }\pp \,=\,-\sqrt{80}\,=\,-4\sqrt{5}\) Hence: sinθ = −459, cosθ = −19\displaystyle \text{Hence: }\:\sin\theta \:=\:-\frac{4\sqrt{5}}{9},\;\;\cos\theta \:=\:-\frac{1}{9}Hence: sinθ=−945,cosθ=−91 Therefore: 12sinθcosθ = 12(−459)(−19) = 2581\displaystyle \text{Therefore: }\:\frac{1}{2}\sin\theta\cos\theta \;=\;\frac{1}{2}\left(-\frac{4\sqrt{5}}{9}\right)\left(-\frac{1}{9}\right) \;=\;\frac{2\sqrt{5}}{81}Therefore: 21sinθcosθ=21(−945)(−91)=8125
C CalcGuy New member Joined Feb 5, 2010 Messages 13 Feb 26, 2010 #3 so im right? and the book is wrong?
B BigGlenntheHeavy Senior Member Joined Mar 8, 2009 Messages 1,577 Feb 26, 2010 #4 Note: arcsec(−9) = arcsin(1/9)+π/2\displaystyle Note: \ arcsec(-9) \ = \ arcsin(1/9)+\pi/2Note: arcsec(−9) = arcsin(1/9)+π/2 Also note: ∫−2−9x2−1x3dx = −∫−9−2x2−1x3dx\displaystyle Also \ note: \ \int_{-2}^{-9}\frac{\sqrt{x^{2}-1}}{x^{3}}dx \ = \ -\int_{-9}^{-2}\frac{\sqrt{x^{2}-1}}{x^{3}}dxAlso note: ∫−2−9x3x2−1dx = −∫−9−2x3x2−1dx Is your Professor a trickster?\displaystyle Is \ your \ Professor \ a \ trickster?Is your Professor a trickster? Hence, final solution = (1/2)[t−sin(t)cos(t)]arcsin(1/9)+π/22π/3\displaystyle Hence, \ final \ solution \ = \ (1/2)[t-sin(t)cos(t)]_{arcsin(1/9)+\pi/2}^{2\pi/3}Hence, final solution = (1/2)[t−sin(t)cos(t)]arcsin(1/9)+π/22π/3 = 12[2π3−(32)(−12)−[arcsin(1/9)+π2−(459)(−19)]]\displaystyle = \ \frac{1}{2}\bigg[\frac{2\pi}{3}-(\frac{\sqrt3}{2})(\frac{-1}{2})-[arcsin(1/9)+\frac{\pi}{2}-(\frac{4\sqrt5}{9})(\frac{-1}{9})]\bigg]= 21[32π−(23)(2−1)−[arcsin(1/9)+2π−(945)(9−1)]] = 12[2π3+34−arcsin(1/9)−π2−4581] = about .367424\displaystyle = \ \frac{1}{2}\bigg[\frac{2\pi}{3}+\frac{\sqrt3}{4}-arcsin(1/9)-\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{4\sqrt5}{81}\bigg] \ = \ about \ .367424= 21[32π+43−arcsin(1/9)−2π−8145] = about .367424
Note: arcsec(−9) = arcsin(1/9)+π/2\displaystyle Note: \ arcsec(-9) \ = \ arcsin(1/9)+\pi/2Note: arcsec(−9) = arcsin(1/9)+π/2 Also note: ∫−2−9x2−1x3dx = −∫−9−2x2−1x3dx\displaystyle Also \ note: \ \int_{-2}^{-9}\frac{\sqrt{x^{2}-1}}{x^{3}}dx \ = \ -\int_{-9}^{-2}\frac{\sqrt{x^{2}-1}}{x^{3}}dxAlso note: ∫−2−9x3x2−1dx = −∫−9−2x3x2−1dx Is your Professor a trickster?\displaystyle Is \ your \ Professor \ a \ trickster?Is your Professor a trickster? Hence, final solution = (1/2)[t−sin(t)cos(t)]arcsin(1/9)+π/22π/3\displaystyle Hence, \ final \ solution \ = \ (1/2)[t-sin(t)cos(t)]_{arcsin(1/9)+\pi/2}^{2\pi/3}Hence, final solution = (1/2)[t−sin(t)cos(t)]arcsin(1/9)+π/22π/3 = 12[2π3−(32)(−12)−[arcsin(1/9)+π2−(459)(−19)]]\displaystyle = \ \frac{1}{2}\bigg[\frac{2\pi}{3}-(\frac{\sqrt3}{2})(\frac{-1}{2})-[arcsin(1/9)+\frac{\pi}{2}-(\frac{4\sqrt5}{9})(\frac{-1}{9})]\bigg]= 21[32π−(23)(2−1)−[arcsin(1/9)+2π−(945)(9−1)]] = 12[2π3+34−arcsin(1/9)−π2−4581] = about .367424\displaystyle = \ \frac{1}{2}\bigg[\frac{2\pi}{3}+\frac{\sqrt3}{4}-arcsin(1/9)-\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{4\sqrt5}{81}\bigg] \ = \ about \ .367424= 21[32π+43−arcsin(1/9)−2π−8145] = about .367424
mmm4444bot Super Moderator Joined Oct 6, 2005 Messages 10,962 Feb 26, 2010 #5 When I evaluate the given equation, I don't get equality. 0.3674 ? 0.2381
B BigGlenntheHeavy Senior Member Joined Mar 8, 2009 Messages 1,577 Feb 27, 2010 #6 Note: For what it is worth dept., just my opinion.\displaystyle Note: \ For \ what \ it \ is \ worth \ dept., \ just \ my \ opinion.Note: For what it is worth dept., just my opinion. When working with trig. functions, I always (if possible) try to break them down into sin, cos,\displaystyle When \ working \ with \ trig. \ functions, \ I \ always \ (if \ possible) \ try \ to \ break \ them \ down \ into \ sin, \ cos,When working with trig. functions, I always (if possible) try to break them down into sin, cos, or tan functions and also get rid of any negative signs, if possible; as this will make it\displaystyle \ or \ tan \ functions \ and \ also \ get \ rid \ of \ any \ negative \ signs, \ if \ possible; \ as \ this \ will \ make \ it or tan functions and also get rid of any negative signs, if possible; as this will make it easier, I have found to solve.\displaystyle \ easier, \ I \ have \ found \ to \ solve. easier, I have found to solve. For example: sec(t) = −9, 1cos(t) = −9, cos(t) = −19\displaystyle For \ example: \ sec(t) \ = \ -9, \ \frac{1}{cos(t)} \ = \ -9, \ cos(t) \ = \ \frac{-1}{9}For example: sec(t) = −9, cos(t)1 = −9, cos(t) = 9−1 sin(π2−t) = −19, π2−t = arcsin(−19)\displaystyle sin(\frac{\pi}{2}-t) \ = \ \frac{-1}{9}, \ \frac{\pi}{2}-t \ = \ arcsin(\frac{-1}{9})sin(2π−t) = 9−1, 2π−t = arcsin(9−1) t = π2−arcsin(−19) = π2+arcsin(19)\displaystyle t \ = \ \frac{\pi}{2}-arcsin(\frac{-1}{9}) \ = \ \frac{\pi}{2}+arcsin(\frac{1}{9})t = 2π−arcsin(9−1) = 2π+arcsin(91) Last one: Let k = −arcsin(−19), then −k = arcsin(−19)\displaystyle Last \ one: \ Let \ k \ = \ -arcsin(\frac{-1}{9}), \ then \ -k \ = \ arcsin(\frac{-1}{9})Last one: Let k = −arcsin(9−1), then −k = arcsin(9−1) Hence, sin(−k) = (−19), −sin(k) = (−19), ⟹ sin(k) = 19, k = arcsin(1/9)\displaystyle Hence, \ sin(-k) \ = \ (\frac{-1}{9}), \ -sin(k) \ = \ (\frac{-1}{9}), \ \implies \ sin(k) \ = \ \frac{1}{9}, \ k \ = \ arcsin(1/9)Hence, sin(−k) = (9−1), −sin(k) = (9−1), ⟹ sin(k) = 91, k = arcsin(1/9) Therefore, −arcsin(−19) = k = arcsin(19)\displaystyle Therefore, \ -arcsin(\frac{-1}{9}) \ = \ k \ = \ arcsin(\frac{1}{9})Therefore, −arcsin(9−1) = k = arcsin(91) All this grunt work could have been avoided, by just punching in arccos(1/−9) into your\displaystyle All \ this \ grunt \ work \ could \ have \ been \ avoided, \ by \ just \ punching \ in \ arccos(1/-9) \ into \ yourAll this grunt work could have been avoided, by just punching in arccos(1/−9) into your trusty TI−89 and you would have gotten arcsin(1/9) + π/2.\displaystyle \ trusty \ TI-89 \ and \ you \ would \ have \ gotten \ \ arcsin(1/9) \ + \ \pi/2. trusty TI−89 and you would have gotten arcsin(1/9) + π/2. The TI−89 tells no lies, the TI−89 knows best.\displaystyle The \ TI-89 \ tells \ no \ lies, \ the \ TI-89 \ knows \ best.The TI−89 tells no lies, the TI−89 knows best.
Note: For what it is worth dept., just my opinion.\displaystyle Note: \ For \ what \ it \ is \ worth \ dept., \ just \ my \ opinion.Note: For what it is worth dept., just my opinion. When working with trig. functions, I always (if possible) try to break them down into sin, cos,\displaystyle When \ working \ with \ trig. \ functions, \ I \ always \ (if \ possible) \ try \ to \ break \ them \ down \ into \ sin, \ cos,When working with trig. functions, I always (if possible) try to break them down into sin, cos, or tan functions and also get rid of any negative signs, if possible; as this will make it\displaystyle \ or \ tan \ functions \ and \ also \ get \ rid \ of \ any \ negative \ signs, \ if \ possible; \ as \ this \ will \ make \ it or tan functions and also get rid of any negative signs, if possible; as this will make it easier, I have found to solve.\displaystyle \ easier, \ I \ have \ found \ to \ solve. easier, I have found to solve. For example: sec(t) = −9, 1cos(t) = −9, cos(t) = −19\displaystyle For \ example: \ sec(t) \ = \ -9, \ \frac{1}{cos(t)} \ = \ -9, \ cos(t) \ = \ \frac{-1}{9}For example: sec(t) = −9, cos(t)1 = −9, cos(t) = 9−1 sin(π2−t) = −19, π2−t = arcsin(−19)\displaystyle sin(\frac{\pi}{2}-t) \ = \ \frac{-1}{9}, \ \frac{\pi}{2}-t \ = \ arcsin(\frac{-1}{9})sin(2π−t) = 9−1, 2π−t = arcsin(9−1) t = π2−arcsin(−19) = π2+arcsin(19)\displaystyle t \ = \ \frac{\pi}{2}-arcsin(\frac{-1}{9}) \ = \ \frac{\pi}{2}+arcsin(\frac{1}{9})t = 2π−arcsin(9−1) = 2π+arcsin(91) Last one: Let k = −arcsin(−19), then −k = arcsin(−19)\displaystyle Last \ one: \ Let \ k \ = \ -arcsin(\frac{-1}{9}), \ then \ -k \ = \ arcsin(\frac{-1}{9})Last one: Let k = −arcsin(9−1), then −k = arcsin(9−1) Hence, sin(−k) = (−19), −sin(k) = (−19), ⟹ sin(k) = 19, k = arcsin(1/9)\displaystyle Hence, \ sin(-k) \ = \ (\frac{-1}{9}), \ -sin(k) \ = \ (\frac{-1}{9}), \ \implies \ sin(k) \ = \ \frac{1}{9}, \ k \ = \ arcsin(1/9)Hence, sin(−k) = (9−1), −sin(k) = (9−1), ⟹ sin(k) = 91, k = arcsin(1/9) Therefore, −arcsin(−19) = k = arcsin(19)\displaystyle Therefore, \ -arcsin(\frac{-1}{9}) \ = \ k \ = \ arcsin(\frac{1}{9})Therefore, −arcsin(9−1) = k = arcsin(91) All this grunt work could have been avoided, by just punching in arccos(1/−9) into your\displaystyle All \ this \ grunt \ work \ could \ have \ been \ avoided, \ by \ just \ punching \ in \ arccos(1/-9) \ into \ yourAll this grunt work could have been avoided, by just punching in arccos(1/−9) into your trusty TI−89 and you would have gotten arcsin(1/9) + π/2.\displaystyle \ trusty \ TI-89 \ and \ you \ would \ have \ gotten \ \ arcsin(1/9) \ + \ \pi/2. trusty TI−89 and you would have gotten arcsin(1/9) + π/2. The TI−89 tells no lies, the TI−89 knows best.\displaystyle The \ TI-89 \ tells \ no \ lies, \ the \ TI-89 \ knows \ best.The TI−89 tells no lies, the TI−89 knows best.