Restrictions

What are the restrictions on x for

3(3x+5) ?
As written there are no restrictions. You can multiply any number by 3, you can add any number 5 to any number, and, again, multiply any number by 3. Surely you knew that!
 
As written that statement makes no sense.
Please explain what it means.

Sorry, it is the denominator of the answer found after simplifying the whole equation.

INSTRUCTIONS: Simplify and state the restrictions on the variable.

2x 8
----------- - ----------- <----Division line
9x^2 + 15x 3x + 5

2x 8
----------- - ------------
3x(3x + 5) 3x + 5

2 8
------------ - ------------
3(3x + 5) 3x + 5

2 8 * 3
------------ - ----------
3(3x + 5) 3(3x + 5)

2 24
----------- - ------------
3(3x + 5) 3(3x+5)

2-24
-----------
3(3x + 5)

-22
----------
3(3x + 5)

22
- -----------
3(3x + 5)

I apologize for the improper division line, I don't know how to make it solid.
Thanks.
 
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Sorry, it is the denominator of the answer found after simplifying the whole equation.

INSTRUCTIONS: Simplify and state the restrictions on the variable.

2x 8
----------- - ----------- <----Division line
9x^2 + 15x 3x + 5

2x 8
----------- - ------------
3x(3x + 5) 3x + 5

2 8
------------ - ------------
3(3x + 5) 3x + 5

2 8 * 3
------------ - ----------
3(3x + 5) 3(3x + 5)

2 24
----------- - ------------
3(3x + 5) 3(3x+5)

2-24
-----------
3(3x + 5)

-22
----------
3(3x + 5)

22
- -----------
3(3x + 5)

I apologize for the improper division line, I don't know how to make it solid.
Thanks.

I don't know why I can't get it to stay the way I type it, I keep previewing and editing but it doesn't help.

the 8 goes over the second division line, and the second (3x + 5) goes under it. It just keeps pushing it all to the left :confused:

I hope you can decipher it :S
 
We can text rational expressions using a forward slash and grouping symbols:

EG: 3/(3x + 5)

The slash tells us we have a ratio.

The number before the slash is the numerator.

The grouping symbols after the slash contain the denominator.



As you cannot have zero in any denominator, the expression 3x + 5 must not evaluate to zero.

What value of x causes the expression 3x + 5 to equal zero? That value is your restriction on x.
 
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PS: If you would like to "draw" algebraic ratios on these boards, then you must use the CODE tags. Check our FAQ for more information on BBC coding. Cheers ~ Mark :cool:
 
Ah -- I see that I misread your second post.

So here is another example (using your latest expression) of texting algebraic ratios with grouping symbols.

-22/[3(3x + 5)]
 
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We can text rational expressions using a forward slash and grouping symbols:

EG: 3/(3x + 5)

The slash tells us we have a ratio.

The number before the slash is the numerator.

The grouping symbols after the slash contain the denominator.



As you cannot have zero in any denominator, the expression 3x + 5 must not evaluate to zero.

What value of x causes the expression 3x + 5 to equal zero? That value is your restriction on x
.

The denominator is 3(3x + 5). The numerator is -22.

thus:
22
- _________
3(3x+5)


Can I just ignore the outside 3?

MY original findings for the restriction on x was

3x + 5 = 0

3x = -5

x (can not equal) -5/3
 
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If the denominator is 3(3x+5) (it would have helped if you had told us that to begin with!) then the restriction is that we cannot divide by 0! 3 is never 0 itself so the denominator will be 0 only when 3x+ 5= 0. That is the same as 3x= -5 and then x= -5/3. The fraction you give exists for all x except x= -5/3.
 
If the denominator is 3(3x+5) (it would have helped if you had told us that to begin with!) then the restriction is that we cannot divide by 0! 3 is never 0 itself so the denominator will be 0 only when 3x+ 5= 0. That is the same as 3x= -5 and then x= -5/3. The fraction you give exists for all x except x= -5/3.

Okay, that makes sense.

That was the restriction I had found originally but then I wanted to be sure...and of course I ended up making things very difficult for everyone trying to help! Sorry! I never thought to add that it was the denominator in the original posting, math isn't my best subject.
 
thus:
22
- _________
3(3x+5)

You are still trying to "draw" fractions.

I tried to tell you that "drawing" does not work on these boards.

I feel badly that my previous post did not explain this situation adequately.

Maybe you'll understand Karl better. Click here to learn how to text basic mathematical expressions.

Cheers :cool:
 
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