mathfun said:Determine the restrictons:
cotx/(1+sinx)
I understand the restrictons: sinx cannot=o, -1
but in the answers, it also has.. "for o<_x < 2pi, x cannot= o, pi, (3pi)/2.
how do u get those values?
stapel said:Why can the sine not be zero? Or did you mean that x can't be zero? If so, then why can't x be -1?
Unco said:mathfun said:Determine the restrictons:
cotx/(1+sinx)
I understand the restrictons: sinx cannot=o, -1
but in the answers, it also has.. "for o<_x < 2pi, x cannot= o, pi, (3pi)/2.
how do u get those values?
You are correct. Now solve for x.
In the domain 0 to 2pi:
sin(x) = 0 --> x = 0, pi
sin(x) = -1 --> x = 3pi/2
Restricting the domain to: \(\displaystyle 0\,\leq\,x\,<\,2\pi\) . . .Determine the restrictons: \(\displaystyle \L\,\frac{\cot x}{1\,+\,\sin x}\)
Thanks. I'd misread the numerator as being a cosine, not a cotangent.mathfun said:sinx cannot be zero because...
soroban said:Hello, mathfun!
It's simpler than you think . . .
Restricting the domain to: \(\displaystyle 0\,\leq\,x\,<\,2\pi\) . . .Determine the restrictons: \(\displaystyle \L\,\frac{\cot x}{1\,+\,\sin x}\)
\(\displaystyle \;\;\cot x\) is undefined for \(\displaystyle x\,=\,0,\,\pi.\;\;\)Hence: \(\displaystyle \,x\,\neq\,0,\,\pi\)
\(\displaystyle \;\;\)Since the denominator cannot be zero: \(\displaystyle \,\sin x\,\neq\,-1\;\;\Rightarrow\;\;x\,\neq\,\frac{3\pi}{2}\)
You've demonstrated that you know cot(x) = cos(x)/sin(x), so is undefined when sin(x) = 0. And sin(x) = 0 when x=0, pi, in the domain 0<x<2pi. This has been covered.mathfun said:how would i find out that cotx is undefined for x = pi
A thread or two ago you appeared to demonstrate you know that sin(x) = -1 when x=3pi/2 in the domain 0<x<2pi.mathfun said:sinx /= -1...how does that get x /= 3pi/2?
because sinx /=-1 ..should make sinx/= - pi=2
...0 being a restriction..what does that have anything to do with pi?Unco said:You've demonstrated that you know cot(x) = cos(x)/sin(x), so is undefined when sin(x) = 0. And sin(x) = 0 when x=0, pi, in the domain 0<x<2pi. This has been covered.mathfun said:how would i find out that cotx is undefined for x = pi
A thread or two ago you appeared to demonstrate you know that sin(x) = -1 when x=3pi/2 in the domain 0<x<2pi.mathfun said:sinx /= -1...how does that get x /= 3pi/2?
because sinx /=-1 ..should make sinx/= - pi=2
mathfun said:...0 being a restriction..what does that have anything to do with pi?Unco said:You've demonstrated that you know cot(x) = cos(x)/sin(x), so is undefined when sin(x) = 0. And sin(x) = 0 when x=0, pi, in the domain 0<x<2pi. This has been covered.mathfun said:how would i find out that cotx is undefined for x = pi
sin(pi) = 0
A thread or two ago you appeared to demonstrate you know that sin(x) = -1 when x=3pi/2 in the domain 0<x<2pi.mathfun said:sinx /= -1...how does that get x /= 3pi/2?
because sinx /=-1 ..should make sinx/= - pi=2
-pi/2 and 3pi/2 are 2pi apart so are equivalent.
then how come -pi/2 is not part of the restrictions?
0 < x < 2pi was arbitrariliy chosen to be the domain. -pi/2 is outside this domain.
[/quote]Unco said:A thread or two ago you appeared to demonstrate you know that sin(x) = -1 when x=3pi/2 in the domain 0<x<2pi.mathfun said:sinx /= -1...how does that get x /= 3pi/2?
because sinx /=-1 ..should make sinx/= - pi=2
-pi/2 and 3pi/2 are 2pi apart so are equivalent.
then how come -pi/2 is not part of the restrictions?
0 < x < 2pi was arbitrariliy chosen to be the domain. -pi/2 is outside this domain.