Polynomial equations: sum is 10, product is 20; find sum of reci

eskimoxo

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The sum of two numbers is ten. Their product is twenty. Find the sum of thier reciprocals.
 
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eskimoxo said:
The sum of two numbers is ten. Their product is twenty. Find the sum of thier reciprocals.

Remember

\(\displaystyle \frac{1}{x} \, + \, \frac{1}{y} \, = \, \frac{x \, + \, y}{x\cdot y} \,\)
 
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i had xy+x+y=30 so then i tried factoring xy+x+y-30=0
i couldn't find anything that factored
but using what you gave me cancels out ..?
 
eskimoxo said:
i had xy+x+y=30
How are "x" and "y" defined? Where do you use the fact that the sum of the two numbers is 10? Where do you use the equation, provided by the tutor, relating the denominators of two summed unitary fractions (fractions with "1" for their numerators) to the sums and products of those denominators?

Please reply with a clear listing of all of your work and reasoning. Thank you! :D

Eliz.
 
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i am not really sure how to write math equations in these boxes but i will try.
ok so the original question i am trying to solve is:
The sum of two numbers is 10. Their product is 20. Find the sum of their reciprocals.
my reasoning was that the equation should be xy + x + y = 10 + 20
then --> xy + x + y - 30 = 0
like i said before i tried to find to factor it but i could find anything.
so the the tutor gave me the equation using the reciprocals
1/x + 1/y = x+y/xy
when i simplify this i get 2x + 2y - xy = 0
and if you simplify x+y/xy= 10/20
= 1/2
so.... i don't know where to go from here.
 
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Subhotosh Khan said:
eskimoxo said:
The sum of two numbers is ten. Their product is twenty. Find the sum of thier reciprocals.

Remember

\(\displaystyle \frac{1}{x} \, + \, \frac{1}{y} \, = \, \frac{x \, + \, y}{x\cdot y} \,\)
eskimoxo said:
x+y
-----
xy

is equal to half ....................Correct

If the numbers are 'x' and 'y' - then..;

\(\displaystyle \frac{1}{x} \, + \, \frac{1}{y} \, = \, \frac{x \, + \, y}{x\cdot y} \, = \, \frac{10}{20} \, = \, \frac{1}{2}\)
 
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1/x + 1/y = x+y/xy
1/x + 1/y = 10/20
1/x + 1/y = 1/2
then i multiplied everything by two to eliminate the half
2/x + 2/y = 1
then to get a common factor with the denominator
2y/xy + 2x/xy = 1xy/xy
2y+2x/xy = 1 <--- i cancelled the xy from this fraction
then multiply both sides by xy
2y + 2x = xy
2x -xy +2y = 0
 
eskimoxo said:
i am not really sure how to write math equations in these boxes but i will try.
To refresh your memory on how to safely and clearly format math in a text-only environment, try reviewing the articles in the links you saw in the "Read Before Posting" thread that you'd read before originally posting. :idea:

Thank you! :D

Eliz.
 
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eskimoxo said:
1/x + 1/y = x+y/xy
1/x + 1/y = 10/20
1/x + 1/y = 1/2 YES! STOP HERE!!! You were asked to find the "sum of the reciprocals of the two numbers" and IF you let x and y represent the two numbers, you HAVE FOUND the sum of the reciprocals (that's what (1/x) + (1/y) IS. 1/x is the reciprocal of the number x. 1/y is the reciprocal of the number y.

The rest of what you have shown here is unnecessary!


then i multiplied everything by two to eliminate the half
2/x + 2/y = 1
then to get a common factor with the denominator
2y/xy + 2x/xy = 1xy/xy
2y+2x/xy = 1 <--- i cancelled the xy from this fraction
then multiply both sides by xy
2y + 2x = xy
2x -xy +2y = 0
 
Factoring with respect to X and with respect to Y ...

eskimoxo said:
is it possible to factor 2x-xy+2y=0 ?

Hello Eskimo:

I would answer your question by saying, "not in the way that you're probably thinking".

These forms don't apply to your exercise:

-[x(y - 2) - 2y] = 0

-[y(x - 2) - 2x] = 0

Cheers,

~ Mark :)
 
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haha lol i guess i didn't really need help after all because i had that answer from the start
i guess i was just overthinking
thanks for your help guys
?xo
 
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