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sujoy

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sir
here is a problem
Let a&c belong to {2,4,6,8,10,12} & b belong to{22,24,26}, where a,b,&c are distinct. Find the number of equations of the form:
ax^2 +bx+c=0, that have real roots?
[Could you please explain me the solution as well]
Regards
Sujoy
 
G'day, Sujoy!

Let a&c belong to {2,4,6,8,10,12} & b belong to{22,24,26}, where a,b,&c are distinct. Find the number of equations of the form:
\(\displaystyle ax^2 +bx+c=0\), that have real roots?
For the quadratic \(\displaystyle ax^2 +bx+c=0\) to have real roots, the discriminant, \(\displaystyle \Delta\), must be greater than or equal to zero.

That is,
\(\displaystyle \Delta = b^2 - 4ac \geq 0\) *

If we begin with the b=22 case:

\(\displaystyle \Delta = 22^2 - 4ac \geq 0\)

This can be rewritten:

\(\displaystyle 484 \geq 4ac\)

Divide by 4:

\(\displaystyle 121 \geq ac\)

Notice that you could choose any two distinct values for \(\displaystyle a\) and \(\displaystyle c\) fom those available and never be above 121 (the largest is \(\displaystyle 12\times10=120\)).

That is, with \(\displaystyle b=22\), \(\displaystyle ac \leq b^2\), always (from our options).

This is going to be the case when \(\displaystyle b=24\) or \(\displaystyle b=26\) also.

So as there are three values for \(\displaystyle b\),
and as there are (6 choose 2) = 15 distinct combinations of \(\displaystyle a\) and \(\displaystyle c\), there will be \(\displaystyle 3 \times 15 = 45\) possible equations.

'Tis an odd question.

* If they asked for real, distinct (ie. different) roots then we would use a > sign instead of \(\displaystyle \geq\), but the results here would be no different.
 
sujoy said:
sir
here is a problem
Let a&c belong to {2,4,6,8,10,12} & b belong to{22,24,26}, where a,b,&c are distinct. Find the number of equations of the form:
ax^2 +bx+c=0, that have real roots?
[Could you please explain me the solution as well]
Regards
Sujoy

For real roots, b^2 - 4ac => 0

22^2 = 484
24^2 = 576

4*10*12 = 480
4*12*12 = 576

Impossible is only b=22 and a=c=12; do you get it?
 
Not exactly sure what your conclusion was, Denis. a and c are distinct if that changes anything for you.
 
Hmmm...guess twas my turn to be sleepy;
didn't notice the "distinct" condition, also didn't notice YOUR Nobelprizical solution :p

What I now mean is:
22^2 = 484
4*10*12 = 480
Since 22 is smallest b and 10:12 are highest a:c, then ALL roots are real;
I was only addressing the "roots" part.

[same to you!]
 
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