(m² + n²)² = 8r²s²

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(m² + n²)² = 8r²s²

the equation (m² + n²)² = 8r²s²

the problem: find integers for m, n, r & s

is this a fair enough way to prove the above is impossible

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(m² + n²)² = 8r²s²

(m² + n²)² = 2(4r²s²)

m² + n² = (2rs)(sqrt(2))


m² + n²
             -------   =  sqrt(2)
2rs
  
since sqrt(2) is irrational, m, n, r & s can't all be integers
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the equation (m² + n²)² = 8r²s²

the problem: find integers for m, n, r & s

is this a fair enough way to prove the above is impossible

Code:
[CENTER]
(m² + n²)² = 8r²s²

(m² + n²)² = 2(4r²s²)

m² + n² = (2rs)(sqrt(2))


m² + n²
             -------   =  sqrt(2)
2rs
  
since sqrt(2) is irrational, m, n, r & s can't all be integers
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No, because m = n = r = s = 0 works in the *given* equation.


Because each variable is raised to an even positive exponent,
then let us assume for relative simplicity that each of the
four variables represents strictly positive integers.**


Because it is difficult for me to see those relatively small exponents,
I will retype it:


\(\displaystyle (m^2 + n^2)^2 = 8r^2s^2\)


\(\displaystyle (m^2 + n^2)^2 = 2(4r^2s^2)\)


\(\displaystyle m^2 + n^2 = 2rs\sqrt{2}, \ \ because \ of \ **, \ don't \ use \ \pm.\)


\(\displaystyle \frac{m^2 + n^2}{2rs} = \sqrt{2}\)

Then the numerator and denominator are made up of integers,
based on an assumption. This fraction is a ratio of two
integers.

But because \(\displaystyle \sqrt{2}\) is known to be irrational,
then it cannot equal the ratio of two integers.

Then this is a contradiction, so the original statement is not true.

At least one of m, n , r, s must not be an integer.


(Potentially, none of them may be integers. However,
I am not claiming that that scenario is possible.)
 
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Denis

I wantonly and brazenly agree that neither r or s can = 0 :smile:


lookagain
Thanks for your work, sorry my text was so small. ('ctrl' + numpad '+' magnifies the page).

Anyway, from your replies, can I assume you are saying I was correct ¿

Thanks guys.
 
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