Inverting integration order for int (int y sin(x) dx) dy

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010arcsin(y)ysin(x)dxdy\displaystyle \int\limits_{0}^{1} \int\limits_{0}^{arcsin(y)} y*sin(x)dxdy

Well I did my work and I was pretty convinced that it should be:

0π/20sin(x)ysin(x)dydx\displaystyle \int\limits_{0}^{\pi /2} \int\limits_{0}^{sin(x)} y*sin(x)dydx

But I tried in Mathematica and in fact it's not the same...

My thought was that the bound of integration in the x axis will go from 0 to π/2\displaystyle \pi /2, end of the arcsin(y) function. As for y it should go from 0 till sin(x) which is the inverse of arcsin(y).

So why is this wrong?! :S
 
Re: Inverting integration order

Hello, xoninhas!

Did you make a sketch?


010arcsin(y)ysin(x)dxdy\displaystyle \int^1_0\int^{\text{arcsin}(y)}_0 y\sin(x)\,dx\,dy

Well I did my work and I was pretty convinced that it should be:

0π20sin(x)ysin(x)dydx\displaystyle \int^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_0 \int ^{\sin(x)}_0 y\sin(x)\,dy\,dx

\(\displaystyle \text{The region is defined by: }\;\begin{Bmatrix}x \:= \:0 & \to & x \:= \:\arcsin(y) \\ \\[-3mm] y \:=\: 0 & \to & y\:=\:1 \end{Bmatrix}\)

It looks like this:
Code:
        |
       1+ - - - - *
        |:::::*   :   *
        |::*      :      *
        |*        :        *
    - - * - - - - + - - - - * - -
        0       pi/2

\(\displaystyle \text{Reversing the limits, we have: }\;\begin{Bmatrix}y \,= \,\sin x & \to &y \,=\,1 \\ \\[-3mm] x \,= \,0 & \to & x \,= \,\frac{\pi}{2} \end{Bmatrix}\)

Therefore:   0π2sinx1ysinxdydx\displaystyle \text{Therefore: }\;\int^{\frac{\pi}{2}}_0\int^1_{\sin x} y\sin x\,dy\,dx

 
Re: Inverting integration order

I was doing the lower part!! that is why I couldn't get it right, cause my drawing is the same as yours... just wrong area chosen... How did you find out which area to integrate? why is it not the under area?
 
Re: Inverting integration order

Forget it... my bad!!

01sin1(y)π/2ysin(x)dxdy\displaystyle \int\limits_{0}^{1} \int\limits_{sin^{-1}(y)}^{\pi/2} y*sin(x)dxdy

This would be the area under the arcsin(y) right?

Cool!
 
This post is just to thank everyone here because I passed my exam... next challenge complex numbers and differential equations! :S

Once again thank you! :)
 
xoninhas said:
This post is just to thank everyone here because I passed my exam... next challenge complex numbers and differential equations! :S

Once again thank you! :)

That's great. Good to hear. Bring on the DE's. I am taking partial and ordinary DE's this fall for a grad course. Bring 'em on.
 
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