Inverse function problem

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Here is the problem: I am asked to find the inverse of this function with a restricted domain:
13042

Here is what I did:

13043

So...does this mean 1) I did something wrong or 2) This function has no inverse?
 
So...does this mean 1) I did something wrong or 2) This function has no inverse?

Neither, ultimately. You only missed a couple small but very important points.

First, the stated domain restriction 0<=x<=2 tells you which sign to take for the square root; you correctly chose the positive sign, but probably without thinking. This determines the range of the inverse. So your answer happens to be correct.

Second, the unstated range restriction that y>=0 (because of the positive square root in the given function) becomes a restriction on the domain, which must be stated as the domain of the inverse: x>=0. So your answer is not quite complete.

So now the question is, why did you think your answer is wrong? Are you assuming that a function can't be its own inverse?

Try graphing both functions (with their domain and range restriction), and think about the many things you can learn from this example!
 
Unfortunately, WolframAlpha's version of the graph (at least as it displays for me) uses different scales on the axes, which distorts the essential idea about inverse functions. A graph you make yourself will make the self-inverse nature of this function more visible. (Think about the reflection across the line y=x, and also about what would happen if you used a different domain for f.)

You might also think about how you could have recognized the shape of the graph just by examining the function.

These are some of the "many things" I said you can learn!
 
Neither, ultimately. You only missed a couple small but very important points.

First, the stated domain restriction 0<=x<=2 tells you which sign to take for the square root; you correctly chose the positive sign, but probably without thinking. This determines the range of the inverse. So your answer happens to be correct.

Second, the unstated range restriction that y>=0 (because of the positive square root in the given function) becomes a restriction on the domain, which must be stated as the domain of the inverse: x>=0. So your answer is not quite complete.

So now the question is, why did you think your answer is wrong? Are you assuming that a function can't be its own inverse?

Try graphing both functions (with their domain and range restriction), and think about the many things you can learn from this example!
well, you are right that I chose the positive sign without thinking but I will study your post later and see if I can find out what you mean. Yes, I thought the answer was wrong because the functions were identical. I did graph the first function and, if my memory serves me, I got a half semicircle or maybe it was half of a half of a semicircle.... But I have to ponder what you are saying about the range restriction. And of course if there is a restriction on the range of one of these it would become a restriction on the domain of the other. I will come back after I think this over.
 
Correct. Now, do you see that if you reflect this over the line y=x, which is what inversion does, you get the very same graph? That is, the graph is symmetrical about that line; which means that it is its own inverse. That can be an interesting thing to ponder.
 
In fact, there is a whole class of functions that are their own inverses. They are called involutary functions. A trivial one is

[MATH]f(x) = x. \text { Why? } f(x) = x \implies f(f(x)) = f(x) = x.[/MATH]
One way to define an inverse function is

[MATH]f(x) \text { and } g(x) \text { are inverse functions of each other} \iff f(g(x)) = x = g(f(x)).[/MATH]
We define

[MATH]f(x) \text { is an involutary function} \iff f(f(x)) = x.[/MATH]
[MATH]f(x) = \sqrt{4 - x^2} \implies f(f(x)) = f(\sqrt{4 - x^2}) = \sqrt{4 - (\sqrt{4 - x^2})^2} = \sqrt{4 - (4 - x^2)} = \sqrt{x^2} = x.[/MATH]
 
Correct. Now, do you see that if you reflect this over the line y=x, which is what inversion does, you get the very same graph? That is, the graph is symmetrical about that line; which means that it is its own inverse. That can be an interesting thing to ponder.
Yes I think I see what you are saying . I think of the two functions as moving in opposite directions. I did some pondering on this matter today while trying to come to grips with this concept of inverse functions. I finally concluded this: If a function is like a black box into which you put, let's say, a piece of raw chocolate and out of which pops a bon bon. Then the inverse of that is a black box into which you put the bon bon the other function made and out pops a piece of raw chocolate. Really, the concept is not hard to grasp but the notation used to indicate what is or has happened is so, I don't know...so arcane? or maybe non-intuitive...that I keep losing the thread of what came from where and where it has to go to get back where it came from. I confess that this business of explaining these ideas using nothing but a and b and f(x) and g(x) and h(x) and all the rest without, at least for the duration of the explanation, presenting any actual examples....well, it's not the way I would do it. I guess these textbook authors get so used to this language that they forget how alien it feels to those who are relatively new to it.
 
… concluded this: If a function is like a black box into which you put, let's say, a piece of raw chocolate and out of which pops a bon bon [then] the inverse of that [process] is a [different] black box into which you put the bon bon the other function made and out pops a piece of raw chocolate.
Yes, that's a good visual, and I like how you specified that "the" bon bon going in is exactly the same bon bon produced by the original function. Yet, when that bon bon goes into the inverse function, it isn't just "a" piece of chocolate that pops out; it's the specific piece of chocolate (reconstructed!) used to make that particular bon bon (and none other) in the first place. That is, each input maps only to its mate.

… I keep losing the thread of what came from where and where it has to go to get back where it came from …
Do you draw sketches, to organize those visuals on scratch paper? Label boxes with function names, as well as what's going in and out. Refer to the diagrams, when you start to lose track of what symbols represent. If it's a word problem, add the symbol definitions to your diagrams, too.

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Yes I think I see what you are saying . I think of the two functions as moving in opposite directions. I did some pondering on this matter today while trying to come to grips with this concept of inverse functions. I finally concluded this: If a function is like a black box into which you put, let's say, a piece of raw chocolate and out of which pops a bon bon. Then the inverse of that is a black box into which you put the bon bon the other function made and out pops a piece of raw chocolate. Really, the concept is not hard to grasp but the notation used to indicate what is or has happened is so, I don't know...so arcane? or maybe non-intuitive...that I keep losing the thread of what came from where and where it has to go to get back where it came from. I confess that this business of explaining these ideas using nothing but a and b and f(x) and g(x) and h(x) and all the rest without, at least for the duration of the explanation, presenting any actual examples....well, it's not the way I would do it. I guess these textbook authors get so used to this language that they forget how alien it feels to those who are relatively new to it.
The notion itself is very simple, as simple as a list containing two columns. In the left column are listed all the members of some class, say the names of the students in a class, with each member listed once. In the right column are listed members of some class, say seat numbers in an auditorium. Each row gives the item in the right column that is uniquely associated with the item in the left column. In our example, the assignment of specific students to specfic seats is a function. In other words, the basic notion is one of association.

The notion of a function is a bit more complex than mere association because it demands unique and exhaustive association in one direction. Another example will make this clearer. Suppose we have three rooms, each of which contains only people who are devout members of some religion and are joined to some other person in the room in a marriage recognized as valid by that religion.

In one room, the religion universally subscribed to accepts only polygyny as a valid marriage. In that room, you can find a function associating each woman to her unique husband, but you cannot create a function associating each man to his unique wife because each man has more than one wife.

In another room, the religion universally subscribed to accepts only polyandry as a valid marriage. In that room, you can find a function associating each man to his unique wife, but you cannot find a function associating each woman to her unique husband because each woman has more than one husband.

In the third room, the religion universally subscribed to accepts only monogamy between a biological man and a biolgical woman as a valid marriage. In that room, you can find a function associating each man with his unique wife. Moreover, you can find a different function associating each woman with her unique husband. These are inverse functions because if you apply them one after the other, you end up with the person you started with.

The whole idea of a function is to make exact a very important kind of association, one that is exhaustive and unique in one direction. Getting an idea formulated exactly frequently leads to a very abstract definition that seems far indeed from the familiar idea at its root. Then we create a very simple notation in which to pack these abstractions.
 
Yes, that's a good visual, and I like how you specified that "the" bon bon going in is exactly the same bon bon produced by the original function. Yet, when that bon bon goes into the inverse function, it isn't just "a" piece of chocolate that pops out; it's the specific piece of chocolate (reconstructed!) used to make that particular bon bon (and none other) in the first place. That is, each input maps only to its mate.


Do you draw sketches, to organize those visuals on scratch paper? Label boxes with function names, as well as what's going in and out. Refer to the diagrams, when you start to lose track of what symbols represent. If it's a word problem, add the symbol definitions to your diagrams, too.

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That is a good idea. I have done some spontaneous doodles but nothing systematic, or at least not systematic enough. I will try that. Thanks.
 
The notion itself is very simple, as simple as a list containing two columns. In the left column are listed all the members of some class, say the names of the students in a class, with each member listed once. In the right column are listed members of some class, say seat numbers in an auditorium. Each row gives the item in the right column that is uniquely associated with the item in the left column. In our example, the assignment of specific students to specfic seats is a function. In other words, the basic notion is one of association.

The notion of a function is a bit more complex than mere association because it demands unique and exhaustive association in one direction. Another example will make this clearer. Suppose we have three rooms, each of which contains only people who are devout members of some religion and are joined to some other person in the room in a marriage recognized as valid by that religion.

In one room, the religion universally subscribed to accepts only polygyny as a valid marriage. In that room, you can find a function associating each woman to her unique husband, but you cannot create a function associating each man to his unique wife because each man has more than one wife.

In another room, the religion universally subscribed to accepts only polyandry as a valid marriage. In that room, you can find a function associating each man to his unique wife, but you cannot find a function associating each woman to her unique husband because each woman has more than one husband.

In the third room, the religion universally subscribed to accepts only monogamy between a biological man and a biolgical woman as a valid marriage. In that room, you can find a function associating each man with his unique wife. Moreover, you can find a different function associating each woman with her unique husband. These are inverse functions because if you apply them one after the other, you end up with the person you started with.

The whole idea of a function is to make exact a very important kind of association, one that is exhaustive and unique in one direction. Getting an idea formulated exactly frequently leads to a very abstract definition that seems far indeed from the familiar idea at its root. Then we create a very simple notation in which to pack these abstractions.
Good. Of course, some of the functions you describe here are not reversible..at least given the ornery and stupid nature of the present human condition, but I get the point.
"Exhaustive" , by the way, is a very good word in this connection. I will remember it and steal it from you as of now.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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