Integrals and motion: a(t) = 10 sin(t) + 3 cos(t), and....

scrum

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Hello, I'm just starting math 2, which means we're doing integration. I'm having some trouble with my homework, and I think it's because they're conceptual questions.

I'm quite frustrated as I thought I had a good grasp of the subject and I'm getting answers to questions that I think are right but that are wrong, so it's almost worse because i have a wrong understanding of the material rather than no understanding.

I'm going to post some of the problems. Some of them I have not attempted yet. After posting I have another class and after that I will read my book, have another crack at them and then come back here.

First One
Let s(t) denote the position of a particle at time t, and let v and a be the velocity and acceleration respectively. The particle is moving according to the data
a(t) = 10sin(t) + 3cos(t) , s(0)=8, s(pi/2)= -10

For this one I integrated it twice.
v(t) = -10cos(t) + 3sin(t) + C

s(t) = -10sin(t) - 3cos(t)+Ct+D

and then plugged in pi/2 and zero.
Here is my problem..

s(pi/2) = -10 + C(pi/2)+D
s(0) = -3 +D

Now S(0) is meant to be 8 so that makes D = 11
But Then I need to make
s(pi/2) = -10
s(pi/2) = -10 + C(pi/2) + 11

so then s(pi/2) = 1 + c(pi/2)

C = - 22/pi

I thought I had it just then but I dont and it's wrong and i've got class so i will work on it when i get back and then check again.
 
scrum said:
Let s(t) denote the position of a particle at time t, and let v and a be the velocity and acceleration respectively. The particle is moving according to the data
a(t) = 10sin(t) + 3cos(t) , s(0)=8, s(pi/2)= -10
Okay; we have the acceleration equation and two data points for the position. But we don't have any actual question here. What are you supposed to be doing with this information? :oops:

I will guess from what you posted that you are supposed to try to find the equation for the position. If so, then use the fact that a(t) = v'(t) and v(t) = s'(t), where v(t) is the velocity function.

. . . . .a(t) = 10 sin(t) + 3 cos(t)

. . . . .v(t) = int [ 10 sin(t) + 3 cos(t) ] dt

. . . . . . . .= -10 cos(t) + 3 sin(t) + C

...where "C" is the constant of integration. Continuing, we have:

. . . . .s(t) = int [ -10 cos(t) + 3 sin(t) + C ] dt

. . . . . . . .= -10 sin(t) - 3 cos(t) + Ct + D

...where "D" is the constant of integration. Plugging in the two data points, we get:

. . . . .s(0) = 0 - 3 + D = 8

. . . . .D = 11

. . . . .s(pi/2) = -10 + (pi/2)C + 11 = -10

. . . . .(pi/2)C + 11 = 0

. . . . .(pi/2)C = -11

. . . . .C = (-11)(2/pi) = -22/(pi)

Then:

. . . . .s(t) = -10 sin(t) - 3 cos(t) - (22/pi)t + 11

However, you say that this is not the correct answer, which implies that finding the position function was not what you were supposed to do...?

Please reply with clarification. Thank you! :D

Eliz.
 
Yea I realized what I was doing wrong.

The pi/2 was a 2pi.

Which makes me kind of happy because it meansmy concept understanding is good but i just misread the question.

However I have some more that are confusing me. Often I get them as I type my work, so here goes...

An object is thrown upwards with initial velocity w meters per second from a point d meters above the ground. Assume that the acceleration due to gravity is -9.8 meters per second squared, and let v(t) and s(t) denote the velocity and position of the object above the ground, respectively, after t seconds.

(a) Determine a function that describes the velocity v of the object after time t.

v(t) = [quote:14f88xfc]w-9.8t I got this answer, it correct

(b) Determine a function that describes the position s of the object after time t.

s(t) = [/quote:14f88xfc]wt-(4.9t^2)+d I got this answer, it also correct[/quote]

(c) Use (a) and (b) to obtain a formula that relates the velocity v of the object with w, s, and d. Your formula should have the form V^2 = [/quote]

For this part I think i'm misunderstanding what they want, I'm sure i could do it if i understood what they were asking me to express in terms of what. How is V^2 different from V?
 
scrum said:
Yea I realized what I was doing wrong.

The pi/2 was a 2pi.

Which makes me kind of happy because it meansmy concept understanding is good but i just misread the question.

However I have some more that are confusing me. Often I get them as I type my work, so here goes...

An object is thrown upwards with initial velocity w meters per second from a point d meters above the ground. Assume that the acceleration due to gravity is -9.8 meters per second squared, and let v(t) and s(t) denote the velocity and position of the object above the ground, respectively, after t seconds.

(a) Determine a function that describes the velocity v of the object after time t.

v(t) = [quote:15i3k1hy]w-9.8t ..............................................(1)

solve for 't'..............................................(1)

I got this answer, it correct

(b) Determine a function that describes the position s of the object after time t.

s(t) =
wt-(4.9t^2)+d

replace 't' from (1)

I got this answer, it also correct[/quote:15i3k1hy]

(c) Use (a) and (b) to obtain a formula that relates the velocity v of the object with w, s, and d. Your formula should have the form V^2 = [/quote]

For this part I think i'm misunderstanding what they want, I'm sure i could do it if i understood what they were asking me to express in terms of what. How is V^2 different from V?[/quote]
 
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