given 12a-3(a+1)=a+1, what is the value of a?

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given 12a-3(a+1)=a+1, what is the value of a?
this is a similar equation like the one i posted minutes ago, but I am at a loss here.
12a-3(a+1)=a+1
12a-3a-3=a+1
9a-3=a+1

I inserted this in an equation solver and got this:
(9a-3)+ (3-a)= (a+1) + (3-a)
what i don't understand is where the (3-a) is coming from.
thanks in advance for any help.
eddy
 
eddy2017 said:
given 12a-3(a+1)=a+1, what is the value of a?
this is a similar equation like the one i posted minutes ago, but I am at a loss here.
12a-3(a+1)=a+1
12a-3a-3=a+1
9a-3=a+1

I inserted this in an equation solver and got this:
(9a-3)+ (3-a)= (a+1) + (3-a)
what i don't understand is where the (3-a) is coming from.
thanks in advance for any help.
eddy
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Simplify by combining like terms. What do you get?
 
To solve for a, you must "isolate" a on just one side of the equation.

[math]9a - 3 = a - 1 \implies[/math]
[math]9a - 3 + 3 = a - 1 + 3 \implies[/math]
[math]9a = a + 2 = 2 + a \implies[/math]
[math]9a - a = 2 + a - a \implies[/math]
[math]8a = 2 \implies WHAT?[/math]
Questions?

Does the result check out when you insert your answer into the original equation?
 
I am gonna simplify it first. I have learned that is the first thing I need to see. if I can simplify it down a bit is better.

(9a-3)+ (3-a)= (a+1) + (3-a) I'll add sub (3-a) from both sides
9a-3+ 3-a -(3-a)= a+1 + 3-a - (3-a)
9a-3 = a+1 ( after canceling out)
now I'm adding 3 to both sides
9a-3 + 3= a+1 + 3
9a=a + 4 now subbin' a from both sides I get
9a-a= a+4-a
8a=4 dividing both sides by 8 I get
a= 4/8 simplyfin' further
a= 1/2
 
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JeffM said:
To solve for a, you must "isolate" a on just one side of the equation.

[math]9a - 3 = a - 1 \implies[/math]
[math]9a - 3 + 3 = a - 1 + 3 \implies[/math]
[math]9a = a + 2 = 2 + a \implies[/math]
[math]9a - a = 2 + a - a \implies[/math]
[math]8a = 2 \implies WHAT?[/math]
Questions?

Does the result check out when you insert your answer into the original equation?
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Well, it gives me 1/2. Let me see if this checks out when I replace a for 1/2.
 
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Let me ask you all a question. if I want to check out this result of 1/2 I should replace a in the original equation for 1/2. that is a given. the original equation being 12a-3(a+1)=a+1
Can I change the 1/2 for 0.5 instead to make the checkin' out clearer?

If you notice I am editing a lot is because one of the things that the mod pointed out was that if I wanted to become a teacher I needed to write better, not like texting.
 
eddy2017 said:
I am gonna simplify it first. I have learned that is the first thing I need to see. if I can simplify it down a bit is better.

(9a-3)+ (3-a)= (a+1) + (3-a) I'll add sub (3-a) from both sides
9a-3+ 3-a -(3-a)= a+1 + 3-a - (3-a)
9a-3 = a+1 ( after canceling out)
now I'm adding 3 to both sides
9a-3 + 3= a+1 + 3
9a=a + 4 now subbin' a from both sides I get
9a-a= a+4-a
8a=4 dividing both sides by 8 I get
a= 4/8 simplyfin' further
a= 1/2
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Where did the first line come from? An equation solver? I wouldn't use it, especially if you didn't understand what it did. You got 9a-3=a+1. Continue from that.
 
eddy2017 said:
9a-3=a+1

I inserted this in an equation solver
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Why would you do that? You have solved equations of that form by hand in many of your threads over the past few years.

That equation solver looks like a waste of time, for a beginning algebra student.

:(
 
lev, I must have picked up your vibes. We just cross-posted.

o_O
 
Okay, I will retrace my steps and go from what lev said. I will post it later. Thank you. And thank you all for welcoming me back again. I am so sorry. But I have learned a lot. And you all are wonderful teachers!!!.
 
lev888 said:
Where did the first line come from? An equation solver? I wouldn't use it, especially if you didn't understand what it did. You got 9a-3=a+1. Continue from that.
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I put it in symbolab. I followed the process well, but when it comes to see if the result of 1/2 checks out is when I get stuck.

(9a-3)+(3-a)= (a+1)+(3-a)

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Trying to understand what equation softwares do is just because I am curious. I assume they are not wrong. Not at least for these type of equations. Of course, I understand I should solve it on my own and not rely on softwares.
 
eddy2017 said:
I put it in symbolab. I followed the process well, but when it comes to see if the result of 1/2 checks out is when I get stuck.

(9a-3)+(3-a)= (a+1)+(3-a)

Free Pre-Algebra, Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus, Geometry, Statistics and Chemistry calculators step-by-step
www.symbolab.com www.symbolab.com
Trying to understand what equation softwares do is just because I am curious. I assume they are not wrong. Not at least for these type of equations. Of course, I understand I should solve it on my own and not rely on softwares.
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The better approach should be to solve with pencil/paper first,

Then use "technology" to check your answers .
 
eddy2017 said:
I put it in symbolab. I followed the process well, but when it comes to see if the result of 1/2 checks out is when I get stuck.

(9a-3)+(3-a)= (a+1)+(3-a)

Free Pre-Algebra, Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus, Geometry, Statistics and Chemistry calculators step-by-step
www.symbolab.com www.symbolab.com
Trying to understand what equation softwares do is just because I am curious. I assume they are not wrong. Not at least for these type of equations. Of course, I understand I should solve it on my own and not rely on softwares.
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There is nothing wrong with experimenting with services like wolframalpha, etc. But in this case you started to solve an equation, put it into a solver, got from it something you don't understand (!), continued to solve it yourself. Makes no sense to me.
 
lev888 said:
There is nothing wrong with experimenting with services like wolframalpha, etc. But in this case you started to solve an equation, put it into a solver, got from it something you don't understand (!), continued to solve it yourself. Makes no sense to me.
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Le, I want to clear this up. While I agreed I had to continue solving it without the use of the software I totally understand the solution and steps involved. You said; 'got from it something you don't understand '. No, I did understand it!. What I had trouble with was when I went to check it out, replacing the a for the found value. I did not know how to check it out. That was what I meant. Anyway, I want to do it on paper now.
continuing where I left off; ( now on paper).
9a-3=a+1
 

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I can't turn the pic so it is straight. I hope you can see the work. Thank you all.
 
Yes, the 3-a that the software used!!!. That is what I meant. And I did not understand it. But I knew the solution was 1/2 and when the tutors asked me to check the answer out I had trouble. That was all,mmm. I am trying to check it out now. I'll post my work. I have to replace a in the original equation by 1/2, right, and it has to check out, IF NOT, then I am doing something wrong.
 
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Checking it out now,
9a-3=a+1
9(1/2) - 3 = 1/2 + 1
solving fractions
3/2=3/2
it checks out.
Is this good?.
Thanks.
 
mmm, please, check post #12 and you will see where my doubt was. Please, I do not want any more misunderstandings.
 
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