Finding capacity/volume with integration

uberathlete

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Hi all. I've got the following problem:

Say I have a rectangle with one side of length 2 and the other side of length Pi. Now I bend the rectangle to form a half cylinder of length 2 and semi-circle radius 1. I then cover the bottom of the half cylinder. To visualize the object, think of a cylinder with top and bottomsides closed. Then cut out the top of the cylinder, then slice the cylinder vertically in half.

Now, I fill it with some liquid, tilting it appropriately so that I get as much of the liquid in it as possible.

My question is, how do I find the capacity of the half-cylinder using integration?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. I've been wracking my brains for the past few days and its starting to hurt. Thanks!
 
How do you bend a rectangle (2D) into a cyllinder (3D)?

Why did you start with a closed object if you're just going to cut off the lid?

Why do you have to tilt it to achieve maximum volume?

I think it an unter-defined problem for the moment.
 
tkhunny said:
How do you bend a rectangle (2D) into a cyllinder (3D)?
I think the exercise means something like "take a rectangular sheet of tin, and roll and solder it to form a cylindrical tube", etc, etc. The resulting hollow cylinder will have an end circumference equal to one of the original sheet's dimensions, and a height equal to the other.

Eliz.
 
re

Maybe I should rephrase ...

Take a flat rectangular piece of tin with length 2 and width Pi. Bend it to form a half (or semi) cylinder with length 2 and semi-circle radius 1. Now, cover the bottom (ie. with a semi-circle). What is the capacity of this object?
 
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uberathlete said:
Take a flat rectangular piece of tin with length 2 and width Pi. Bend it to form a half (or semi) cylinder with length 2 and semi-circle radius 1. Now, cover the bottom (ie. with a semi-circle). What is the capacity of this object?
Oh... I think I see where the "tilting" is coming in:

You've got the classic "trough" with a semi-circular cross-section, but one of the end-caps is missing, so all the water will pour out unless you tip the thing a bit. Is that about right?

Thank you (and please forgive my earlier -- and possibly present -- confusion).

Eliz.
 
Is this something like you were descibing. Please forgive my hapohazard diagram.

I was trying to draw a cylinder cut in half lengthwise. That is what you meant by a

half cylinder, is it not?.

halfcylinder2wn.gif


It is 2 feet long and has radius 1?.

\(\displaystyle 2\int_{-1}^{1}\sqrt{1-x^{2}}dx\)

The volume of this half cylinder could just be given by: \(\displaystyle (2)\frac{{\pi}r^{2}}{2}=\sout{2}\frac{{\pi}(1)^{2}}{\sout{2}}={\pi}\)
 
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stapel said:
uberathlete said:
Take a flat rectangular piece of tin with length 2 and width Pi. Bend it to form a half (or semi) cylinder with length 2 and semi-circle radius 1. Now, cover the bottom (ie. with a semi-circle). What is the capacity of this object?
Oh... I think I see where the "tilting" is coming in:

You've got the classic "trough" with a semi-circular cross-section, but one of the end-caps is missing, so all the water will pour out unless you tip the thing a bit. Is that about right?

Thank you (and please forgive my earlier -- and possibly present -- confusion).

Eliz.
Yes, that's right.
 
galactus said:
Is this something like you were descibing. Please forgive my hapohazard diagram.

I was trying to draw a cylinder cut in half lengthwise. That is what you meant by a

half cylinder, is it not?.

halfcylinder2wn.gif


It is 2 feet long and has radius 1?.

\(\displaystyle 2\int_{-1}^{1}\sqrt{1-x^{2}}dx\)

The volume of this half cylinder could just be given by: \(\displaystyle (2)\frac{{\pi}r^{2}}{2}=\sout{2}\frac{{\pi}(1)^{2}}{\sout{2}}={\pi}\)

Hi Galactus. Your diagram is correct. The half cylinder however is closed at the top and open on the bottom and the side (ie. its rectangular side). So if I fill it with some liquid without tilting it, the liquid would just flow out of the bottom side. If I tilt it so that I can get as much liquid in it as possible, then that would be the maximum capacity of the object. So I sort of want to find the volume of the liquid, or in other words, the capacity of the object.
 
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