Evaluating the logarithmic equation for three values

caligirl350

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Evaluate the logarithmic equation for three values of x that are greater than 1, three values of x that are between 0 and 1, and at x=1. State the equation of the line asymptotic to the graph (if any).


y=-log5x

The five is where the g should be.

y=log(0.5)

I dont know if I am starting this correctly. I will be lucky if I pass this course.
 
caligirl350 said:
y=-log5x

The five is where the g should be. ? What does this sentence mean?

y=log(0.5) What happened to the negative sign, in front of log(0.5) ?



y = -log(0.5) is what you would write, if you were to choose the value 0.1 for x, in the equation y = -log(5x).

If this is what you're thinking, then that is a good start. Use a scientific calculator to get a decimal approximation for y when x is 0.1.

If the equation has a base-5 logarithm, instead, then we would have the following.

y = -log[sub:2i7xbbz4]5[/sub:2i7xbbz4](x)

If you were to choose 1/2 as one of the three numbers between zero and one, then you would write the following.

y = -log[sub:2i7xbbz4]5[/sub:2i7xbbz4](0.5)

Unless you have a "fancy" calculator, you'll need to understand how to use the change-of-base formula, to be able to use your calculator's LOG or LN button to evaluate the base-5 logarithm.

Please clarify, if you need more help. 8-)

 
caligirl350 said:
can you help me to expand

Hi Caligirl:

I think you used the wrong verb. In mathematics, the verb "to expand" generally means to multiply algebraic expressions together.

You want "to evaluate" the expression log_5(0.5). In other words, you want a decimal approximation for this expression because it's the y-coordinate when x is 0.5, and this exercise is wanting you to graph some points, to get an idea of what the graph looks like for the equation y = log_5(x).

To evaluate log base-5 of 0.5, you first need a scientific calculator that has a [LOG] button or [LN] button, for evaluating base-10 or base-e logarithms, respectively. This is because most calculators do not have a base-5 button.

Using the natural logarithm [LN] button, the change-of-base formula tells us that log_5(0.5) is the same as the ratio ln(0.5)/ln(5).

In other words, we divide the natural log of the original input (0.5) by the natural log of the base (5).

Symbolically, the change-of-base formula looks like this (where I'm using b as the base):

\(\displaystyle log_{b}(Input) = \frac{ln(Input)}{ln(b)}\)

This formula works just as well, using base-10 logarithms instead of natural logarithms.

\(\displaystyle log_{b}(Input) = \frac{log(Input)}{log(b)}\)

Here's two examples of evaluating logarithms with the change-of-base formula.

\(\displaystyle log_{2}(0.9) = \frac{ln(0.9)}{ln(2)} = \frac{-0.105361}{0.693147} = -0.152003\)

\(\displaystyle log_{7}(44) = \frac{log(44)}{log(7)} = \frac{1.643453}{0.845098} = 1.944689\)

If I wrote anything that you do not understand, please reply with specific questions.

Cheers ~ Mark 8-)
 
I understand.

The small 5 is notation that the base is not 10. The base is 5.

Using a keyboard, we type a base-5 logarithm like this: log_5(x).

In other words, log_5(x) is the symbol used for the exponent to which 5 must be raised in order for the power to equal x.

If you do not have a good understanding of logarithms, in general, the various notations and terms will be confusing to you.

Do you understand logarithms, in general?

Most scientific calculators do not have buttons for evaluating logarithms having bases other than 10 or e.

So, your calculator does not have a button for base-5 logarithms.

If you want to find the value of log_5(x), then you need to use the change-of-base formula to rewrite log_5(x) in terms of base-10 or base-e logarithms.

Using base-10 logarithms, log_5(x) equals log(x)/log(5).

Therefore: evaluating the expression log_5(0.5) requires you to use your calculator's base-10 logarithm button to find log(0.5) and log(5).

Then, do the division: log(0.5)/log(5).

Do you know how to use your calculator's [LOG] button to evaluate log(0.5) and log(5)?
 
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