Evaluating a definite integral

CatchThis2

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I have been trying to solve this problem for a long time and I keep getting stuck maybe someone can help as it would be greatly appreciated.

1/(3x+3) from 0 to 2

So far I get

U=3x+3
DU= 3dx
DX= 1/3 DU

I am stuck at 1/3 ln(3X+3) from 0 to 2
 
CatchThis2 said:
I have been trying to solve this problem for a long time and I keep getting stuck maybe someone can help as it would be greatly appreciated.

1/(3x+3) from 0 to 2

So far I get

U=3x+3
DU= 3dx
DX= 1/3 DU

I am stuck at 1/3 ln(3X+3) from 0 to 2

Replace :
(1/3)ln(3(2)+3) - (1/3)ln(3(0)+3) = ....
 
That is what I did also. Can you try plugging it in and telling me what you get for an answer. I don't have calculator on me at the moment but It is nice to know someone is doing the same steps as me.

Thanks
 
Factor out the 3:

13021x+1dx\displaystyle \frac{1}{3}\int_{0}^{2}\frac{1}{x+1}dx

Now, it's just a matter of an ln
 
02dx3x+3, Let u = 3x+3, then du = 3dx, hence;\displaystyle \int_{0}^{2}\frac{dx}{3x+3}, \ Let \ u \ = \ 3x+3, \ then \ du \ = \ 3dx, \ hence;

1339u1du = 13lnu]39 = 13[ln(9)ln(3)] = ln(31/3).\displaystyle \frac{1}{3}\int_{3}^{9}u^{-1}du \ = \ \frac{1}{3}ln|u|\bigg]_{3}^{9} \ = \ \frac{1}{3}[ln(9)-ln(3)] \ = \ ln(3^{1/3}).
 
Thank you so much for your help. That was the correct answer. If you don't mind could you take a look at another question I have.
 
I need to find the integral of (z+1)e^4z DZ

I have:

U=4z
DU=4dz
Dz=(1/4)DU
DU=(1/4)e^4z

Not sure if all of this is right. I have much more work on paper but it is to much to actually type. If anyone would try to solve this it would be greatly appreciated as I have attempted it numerous times with no luck.
 
Did you try parts?.

(z+1)e4zdz\displaystyle \int (z+1)e^{4z}dz

Let u=z+1,   dv=e4zdz,   du=dz,   v=14e4z\displaystyle u=z+1, \;\ dv=e^{4z}dz, \;\ du=dz, \;\ v=\frac{1}{4}e^{4z}

Then, (z+1)e4z414e4zdz\displaystyle \frac{(z+1)e^{4z}}{4}-\frac{1}{4}\int e^{4z}dz

Finish up?.
 
It is definitely an integration by parts problem, I think that is a two step problem though. I looked at my notes and I actually attempted it the way you did and stopped where you were at because I was unsure how to expand upon the work you have. Can you possibly finish the problem showing me step by step how you got your answer? I would really appreciate it. For some reason I am having trouble wit this integration by parts topic.
 
It's pretty much done except for integrating 14e4zdz\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\int e^{4z}dz and that's straightfroward.

We should get z4e4z+14e4z116e4z=z4e4z+316e4z\displaystyle \frac{z}{4}e^{4z}+\frac{1}{4}e^{4z}-\frac{1}{16}e^{4z}=\frac{z}{4}e^{4z}+\frac{3}{16}e^{4z}
 
For some reason that answer is not working. I have a computer program which instantly tells you if it is right or wrong but it won't accept that answer. I really appreciate your help on that problem though as your work looks right to me.
 
I don't know what the computer is expecting, but that is correct.

I assume the z is just a variable. This is not complex, is it?. I wouldn't think so.
 
I have one more definite integral problem which I am unable to solve. It is evaluate the definite integral of -7x^2e^4x dx from 0 to 1
 
7x2e4xdx\displaystyle 7\int x^{2}e^{4x}dx

Try it this way instead of parts:

ddxp(x)e4x=x2e4x\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}p(x)e^{4x}=x^{2}e^{4x}

p(x)=ax2+bx+c\displaystyle p(x)=ax^{2}+bx+c

ddx(ax2+bx+c)e4x=x2e4x\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}(ax^{2}+bx+c)e^{4x}=x^{2}e^{4x}..........[1]

(2ax+b)e4x+(ax2+bx+c)4e4x=x2e4x\displaystyle (2ax+b)e^{4x}+(ax^{2}+bx+c)4e^{4x}=x^{2}e^{4x}

Expand and equate coefficients:

(4ax2+2ax+4bx+b+4c)e4x=x2e4x\displaystyle (4ax^{2}+2ax+4bx+b+4c)e^{4x}=x^{2}e^{4x}

4a=1\displaystyle 4a=1

2a+4b=0\displaystyle 2a+4b=0

b+4c=0\displaystyle b+4c=0

a=14,   b=18,   c=132\displaystyle a=\frac{1}{4}, \;\ b=\frac{-1}{8}, \;\ c=\frac{1}{32}

Sub back into [1]:

ddx(14x218x+132)e4x=x2e4x\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}(\frac{1}{4}x^{2}-\frac{1}{8}x+\frac{1}{32})e^{4x}=x^{2}e^{4x}

Integrate boths sides and the derivative cancels and we have:

14x2e4x18xe4x+132e4x=x2e4x\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}x^{2}e^{4x}-\frac{1}{8}xe^{4x}+\frac{1}{32}e^{4x}=\int x^{2}e^{4x}

Just multiply by 7 now
 
f(x) =  701x2e4xdx, I by P      udv = uvvdu\displaystyle f(x) \ = \ \ -7\int_{0}^{1}x^{2}e^{4x}dx, \ I \ by \ P \ \implies \ \int udv \ = \ uv-\int vdu

Let u = x2, du = 2xdx and dv = e4xdx, v = e4x4.\displaystyle Let \ u \ = \ x^{2}, \ du \ = \ 2xdx \ and \ dv \ = \ e^{4x}dx, \ v \ = \ \frac{e^{4x}}{4}.

Hence, f(x) = 7[x2e4x4]01 1201xe4xdx]\displaystyle Hence, \ f(x) \ = \ -7[\frac{x^{2}e^{4x}}{4}\bigg]_{0}^{1} \ -\frac{1}{2} \int_{0}^{1}xe^{4x}dx]

u = x, du = dx, dv = e4xdx, v = e4x4\displaystyle u \ = \ x, \ du \ = \ dx, \ dv \ = \ e^{4x}dx, \ v \ = \ \frac{e^{4x}}{4}

= 7[e4412[xe4x4]011401e4xdx]]\displaystyle = \ -7[\frac{e^{4}}{4}-\frac{1}{2}[\frac{xe^{4x}}{4}\bigg]_{0}^{1}-\frac{1}{4}\int_{0}^{1}e^{4x}dx]]

= 7[e44e48+18(e4414)]\displaystyle = \ -7[\frac{e^{4}}{4}-\frac{e^{4}}{8}+\frac{1}{8}\bigg(\frac{e^{4}}{4}-\frac{1}{4}\bigg)]

= 7[e44e48+e432132] = 7[5e4132]\displaystyle = \ -7[\frac{e^{4}}{4}-\frac{e^{4}}{8}+\frac{e^{4}}{32}-\frac{1}{32}] \ = \ -7\bigg[\frac{5e^{4}-1}{32}\bigg]
 
Thanks so much for the help. I could follow the work you posted very well. I really appreciate your time.

GARRETT
 
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