Any help? I'm completely lost with all the steps involved.. Thanks. :)
M Math_Junkie Junior Member Joined Sep 15, 2007 Messages 65 Sep 7, 2009 #1 Any help? I'm completely lost with all the steps involved.. Thanks.
D daon Senior Member Joined Jan 27, 2006 Messages 1,284 Sep 7, 2009 #2 This should start you off: \(\displaystyle [(cosx^x)(lnx)]' = [cosx^x]'(lnx) + (cosx^x)[lnx]'\)
M Math_Junkie Junior Member Joined Sep 15, 2007 Messages 65 Sep 7, 2009 #3 The 'xlnx' is all one exponent, so maybe I should have written it like this: f(x) = cosx^(xlnx).
D daon Senior Member Joined Jan 27, 2006 Messages 1,284 Sep 7, 2009 #4 In that case: \(\displaystyle y = f(x)^{g(x)}\) \(\displaystyle ln(y) = g(x)ln[f(x)]\) Which implies: \(\displaystyle \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx} = [g(x)ln(f(x))]'\) And hence: \(\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx} = f(x)^{g(x)}\left [g'(x)ln(f(x)) + \frac{g(x)f'(x)}{f(x)} \right ]\)
In that case: \(\displaystyle y = f(x)^{g(x)}\) \(\displaystyle ln(y) = g(x)ln[f(x)]\) Which implies: \(\displaystyle \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx} = [g(x)ln(f(x))]'\) And hence: \(\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx} = f(x)^{g(x)}\left [g'(x)ln(f(x)) + \frac{g(x)f'(x)}{f(x)} \right ]\)
mmm4444bot Super Moderator Joined Oct 6, 2005 Messages 10,962 Sep 7, 2009 #5 Math_Junkie said: … maybe I should have written it like this: f(x) = cosx^(xlnx) Click to expand... This is still ambiguous. Do you realize that cosine is a function? So is the natural logarithm. Use function notation, when working with functions. f(x) = cos(x)^(x ln[x]) OR f(x) = cos(x^[x ln(x)]) :?:
Math_Junkie said: … maybe I should have written it like this: f(x) = cosx^(xlnx) Click to expand... This is still ambiguous. Do you realize that cosine is a function? So is the natural logarithm. Use function notation, when working with functions. f(x) = cos(x)^(x ln[x]) OR f(x) = cos(x^[x ln(x)]) :?:
B BigGlenntheHeavy Senior Member Joined Mar 8, 2009 Messages 1,577 Sep 7, 2009 #6 My way: \(\displaystyle f(x) \ = \ y \ = \ [cos(x)]^{xln|x|}, \ ln|y| \ = \ xln|x|ln|cos(x)|.\) \(\displaystyle Ergo, \ y \ = \ e^{xln|x|ln|cos(x)|}\) \(\displaystyle Then \ y \ ' \ = \ \bigg[(1)ln|x|ln|cos(x)|+x(1/x)ln|cos(x)|+xln|x|\bigg[\frac{-sin(x)}{cos(x)}\bigg]\bigg][cos(x)]^{xln|x|}, \ e^{xln|x|ln|cos(x)| \ =\)\(\displaystyle \ [cos(x)]^{xln|x|}\) \(\displaystyle Hence \ y \ ' \ = \ [ln|x|ln|cos(x)|+ln|cos(x)|-xln|x|tan(x)][cos(x)]^{xln|x|}.\)
My way: \(\displaystyle f(x) \ = \ y \ = \ [cos(x)]^{xln|x|}, \ ln|y| \ = \ xln|x|ln|cos(x)|.\) \(\displaystyle Ergo, \ y \ = \ e^{xln|x|ln|cos(x)|}\) \(\displaystyle Then \ y \ ' \ = \ \bigg[(1)ln|x|ln|cos(x)|+x(1/x)ln|cos(x)|+xln|x|\bigg[\frac{-sin(x)}{cos(x)}\bigg]\bigg][cos(x)]^{xln|x|}, \ e^{xln|x|ln|cos(x)| \ =\)\(\displaystyle \ [cos(x)]^{xln|x|}\) \(\displaystyle Hence \ y \ ' \ = \ [ln|x|ln|cos(x)|+ln|cos(x)|-xln|x|tan(x)][cos(x)]^{xln|x|}.\)
D Deleted member 4993 Guest Sep 8, 2009 #7 Oh then -- I have to show mine!!! y = [cos(x)][sup:2j2pwsvw]x*ln(x)[/sup:2j2pwsvw] ln(y) = x * ln(x) * ln[cos(x)] y'/y = ln(x) * ln[cos(x)] + ln[cos(x)] - x * ln(x) * tan(x) y' = {ln(x) * ln[cos(x)] + ln[cos(x)] - x * ln(x) * tan(x)} * [cos(x)][sup:2j2pwsvw]x*ln(x)[/sup:2j2pwsvw] .
Oh then -- I have to show mine!!! y = [cos(x)][sup:2j2pwsvw]x*ln(x)[/sup:2j2pwsvw] ln(y) = x * ln(x) * ln[cos(x)] y'/y = ln(x) * ln[cos(x)] + ln[cos(x)] - x * ln(x) * tan(x) y' = {ln(x) * ln[cos(x)] + ln[cos(x)] - x * ln(x) * tan(x)} * [cos(x)][sup:2j2pwsvw]x*ln(x)[/sup:2j2pwsvw] .