Definite Integral: int[2pi to 0][sqrt(sinx - cosx + 1)]dx

Erin0702

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Integrate: sqrt(sinx-cosx+1)dx from 2 pi to 0

Any help is greatly appreciated...I'm not sure where to go with it...it doesn't seem like U substitution would be appropriate here...Thanks!
 
First, [0,2\(\displaystyle \pi\)] is a little misleading, since it is defined only on [0,\(\displaystyle \frac{3}{2}\pi\)].

Second, a little trigonometry has been known to be beneficial.

\(\displaystyle sin(x) - cos(x) = \sqrt{2}*sin(x-\frac{\pi}{4}\)

Third, that isn't much help, but it was fun.

Fourth, how are your numerical methods?
 
Here's a graph of your function. It's a real dilly to integrate.

As TKH said, this type of method is probably your best bet.

This is Simpson's rule using 20 partitions.

If you graph this function, you will find it is not integrable from \(\displaystyle \frac{3{\pi}}{2}\ to\ 2{\pi}\)

This is the graph from \(\displaystyle 0\ to\ \frac{3\pi}{2}\)

hardintegral6yc.gif
 
Sorry...I was told to use the equation I gave in the previous problem...however it should have been: sqrt((-sinx)^2-(cosx)^2+(1)^2)dt. Then evaluate it from 0 to 2 pi. So in that case could I reduce the sinx^2 + cosx^2 to 1? I would then be left to integrate the sqrt of 2? Thanks and sorry for the mistake!
 
It really helps when you provide the entire problem statement, rather than something that you think is an adequate description.

(sin(x))^2 - (cos(x))^2 ≠ 1, generally.

Now what?
 
\(\displaystyle \L\\(sin(x))^{2}-cos^{2}(x)+1=sin^{2}-cos^{2}+1=2-2cos^{2}(x)\)

\(\displaystyle \L\\\sqrt{2-2cos^{2}(x)}=\sqrt{2}|sin(x)|\)

\(\displaystyle \L\\\sqrt{2}\int_{0}^{2{\pi}}|sin(x)|dx\)

The absolute value is difficult to integrate in and of itself. Try setting it up as such:

\(\displaystyle \L\\2\sqrt{2}\int_{0}^{\pi}{sin(x)}dx\)

Do you know what happens if we just used:

\(\displaystyle \L\\{-}\sqrt{2}\int_{0}^{2{\pi}}{sin(x)}dx\ or\ \sqrt{2}\int_{0}^{2{\pi}}{sin(x)}dx?\)

abssin2rm.gif
 
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