cube root problem

omagh

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Hi

General cubic equation \(\displaystyle ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0\)

I have this cubic equation

\(\displaystyle x^3-y^2x+\dfrac{mn(m^2-n^2)}{y}=0\)

Not knowing how to go about solving for x I looked at wikipedia (yes, I know :p)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_function#Special_cases

In the above I have \(\displaystyle a=1\ \ \ \ b=0\ \ \ \ c=-y^2\ \ \ \ d=\dfrac{mn(m^2-n^2)}{y}\)

Going through the part for 'Reduction to a depressed cubic' I thought the following was correct...

They set \(\displaystyle x=t-\dfrac{b}{3a}\)
since I have b=0 this would be x=t

Theirs \(\displaystyle t^2+pt+q=0\)

where \(\displaystyle p=\dfrac{3ac-b^2}{3a^2}\)

and \(\displaystyle q=\dfrac{2b^3-9abc+27a^2d}{27a^3}\)

again, since I have a=1 and b=0 these can be reduced to p=c and q=d (I think this is correct)

Moving down the page to the solution

\(\displaystyle t_1=\sqrt[3]{-\dfrac{q}{2}+\sqrt{\dfrac{q^2}{4}+\dfrac{p^3}{27}}}+\sqrt[3]{-\dfrac{q}{2}-\sqrt{\dfrac{q^2}{4}+\dfrac{p^3}{27}}}\)

since I have p=c and q=d I substitute my values into the above...

\(\displaystyle x=\sqrt[3]{-\dfrac{\dfrac{mn(m^2-n^2)}{y}}{2}+\sqrt{\dfrac{\left(\dfrac{mn(m^2-n^2)}{y}\right)^2}{4}+\dfrac{(-y^2)^3}{27}}}+\sqrt[3]{-\dfrac{\dfrac{mn(m^2-n^2)}{y}}{2}-\sqrt{\dfrac{\left(\dfrac{mn(m^2-n^2)}{y}\right)^2}{4}+\dfrac{(-y^2)^3}{27}}}\)

I know that one solution of the original equation is

\(\displaystyle when\ m=77,\ \ \ \ n=38\ \ \ \ and\ \ \ \ y=78\ \ \ \ then\ \ \ \ x=55\)

I don't get this result when I plug m, n and y into the \(\displaystyle x=...\) equation above, so I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Any help would be welcome

Thanks
 
You will not get the proper answer directly as the condition
\(\displaystyle \frac{q^2}{4} + \frac{p^3}{27}\ge 0\)
is not met for your example. Thus you will have to consider the other cubic roots.
 
You will not get the proper answer directly as the condition
\(\displaystyle \frac{q^2}{4} + \frac{p^3}{27}\ge 0\)
is not met for your example.

Thanks Ishuda.

That is the problem, I know I have made an error somewhere since the 3 roots are

\(\displaystyle x=55\)

\(\displaystyle x=\dfrac{1}{2}\left(-55-\sqrt{15261}\right)\)

and

\(\displaystyle x=\dfrac{1}{2}\left(\sqrt{15261}-55\right)\)

That is, they are all real, where, as you point out, the formula I've been manipulating is giving an incorrect complex result.
 
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