Classify the graph of a function

krazydog

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I have an equation that i think is an ellipse or hyperbola since looking at the equation it has a \(\displaystyle y^ and a x^2 \).
However, i am having problems finishing it since i think i have to do complete the square but cant seem to get it.

Heres the equation.

\(\displaystyle 4x^2 + 4y^2 - 4x - 3 = 0 \)

Wouldn't i arrange like terms

\(\displaystyle 4x^2 -4x + 4y^2 - 3 = 0 \)

then, completing the square has me baffled.
First term i take half of \(\displaystyle -4x = 2^2 = 4\)

so i now have
\(\displaystyle (4x^2 -4x + 4) + (4y^2 - 3) = 0 + 4 \)

im not sure how to handle the \(\displaystyle 4y^2 - 3 \)

Wouldnt i get a fraction like \(\displaystyle 1/4 \) ?

From there i can divide out the 4 and -4 to get the implicit equation that defines an eclipse?

fillng in the right values from my equation.


\(\displaystyle \frac {(x - h)^2} { -4} + \frac {(y -k)^2}{4} = 1 \)

Thank you
 
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I have an equation that i think is an ellipse.
However, i am having problems finishing it since i think i have to do complete the square but cant seem to get it.

Heres the equation.

\(\displaystyle 4x^2 + 4y^2 - 4x - 3 = 0 \)

Wouldn't i arrange like terms

\(\displaystyle 4x^2 -4x + 4y^2 - 3 = 0 \)

then, completing the square has me baffled.
First term i take half of \(\displaystyle -4x = 2^2 = 4\)

You can't unless the coefficient of x^2 is 1.

\(\displaystyle Suggestion:\)

After your own rewrite of the original equation,
divide all terms on both sides of the equation by 4:


\(\displaystyle x^2 - x + y^2 - \dfrac{3}{4} = 0\)


\(\displaystyle Rewrite:\)


\(\displaystyle x^2 - x + y^2 = \dfrac{3}{4}\)


Take half of the coefficient on the x-term, and then square that result:


\(\displaystyle \bigg(\dfrac{-1}{2}\bigg)^2 = \ \dfrac{1}{4}\)


Add 1/4 to each side of the rewritten equation:


\(\displaystyle x^2 - x + \dfrac{1}{4} = 1\)


The expression on the left-hand side of the equation is a perfect square trinomial.

Factor that trinomial and insert it:


\(\displaystyle \bigg(x - \dfrac{1}{2}\bigg)^2 + y^2 = 1\)



\(\displaystyle This \ is \ in \ the \ form \ of \ \ (x - h)^2 + (y - k)^2 = r^2.\)



\(\displaystyle \text{What conic section is that?}\)
 
wow, i forgot about dividing out! Anyways, i could follow along and it looks like a parabola?
not sure why you are using the r since polar coordinates are not covered with this problem..

Also, wouldnt i transfer the\(\displaystyle y^2\)
to the other side of the equation so they equal eachother?

So, from here i can find the vertex, focus, directrix!

Thank you
 
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wow, i forgot about dividing out! Anyways, i could follow along and it looks like a parabola?
not sure why you are using the r since polar coordinates are not covered with this problem..

Krazydog,

No, this is not a parabola, nor does the r have anything to do with polar coordinates in this problem.

Suggest you visit here for some great help:

http://www.purplemath.com/modules/conics.htm

"
...so also each conic has a "typical" equation form, sometimes along the lines of the following:

  • parabola: Ax2 + Dx + Ey = 0
    circle:
    x2 + y2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0
    ellipse:
    Ax2 + Cy2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0
    hyperbola:
    Ax2Cy2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0
These equations can be rearranged in various ways, and each conic has its own special form that you'll need to learn to recognize.."

Also, http://www.purplemath.com/modules/circle.htm

"

The "center-radius" form of the equation is:

  • (xh)2 + (yk)2 = r2
...where the h and the k come from the center point (h, k) and the r2 comes from the radius value r."
 
thank you so much! The conic section didnt really cover the the circle in the homework so i guess that was further from my mind. I will defidently check out those links .. thank you very much!
 
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